Both.The 216th General Assembly has declared the "military action against Iraq" as "unwise, immoral and illegal," which, according to a commissioner, essentially brands U.S. soldiers as war criminals.
"If we declare this war illegal, that means we declare our soldiers engaged in an illegal war, which essentially makes them war criminals. It makes them open to persecution as war criminals," he said. "It says something harmful to our soldiers in Iraq."
The comments came after commissioners had approved the resolution from the assembly's Peacemaking Committee. A motion to reconsider the resolution was made in light of that information.
Commissioners voted by a 66 percent margin not to reconsider the resolution, regardless of the message it sent to U.S. military personnel. The Iraqi resolution, titled "Iraq: Our Responsibility and the Future," was approved by a vote of 78 percent to 22 percent.
During debate, an assembly resource person, Edward LeRoy Long Jr., made the statement that it was the "judgment of the committee that the term 'illegal' was appropriate under UN law."
An advisory delegate, who was a member of the Peacemaking Committee, said the committee felt the statement, in which the commissioners concurred with the judgment that the invasion was "unwise, immoral, and illegal," was the "base of this entire resolution. To take it out would gut it."
In part the resolution read:
"… Opposition to the military action against Iraq based on just war principles and other principles of conscience, while not unanimous among Presbyterians, has been sufficiently widespread to indicate much concern. From the beginning, it has been the judgment of many church leaders, both in the United States and elsewhere, that an invasion of Iraq has been unwise, immoral, and illegal. The 216th General Assembly (2004) concurs with this judgment. That judgment has also been evident in widespread public feeling in numerous countries, including countries long friendly to the United States. …"
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2006-09-23 12:09:03
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answer #1
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answered by dstr 6
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This is a question that historians are going to be writing about for centuries to come... if our planet last that long.
Of course, the war in Iraq is illegal and immoral. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
The problem is that most Americans don't want to believe that they have supported, funded with their tax dollars and flat believed in a war that has killed 130,000+ civilians. They can't...
You see, the human mind can only handle so much guilt. I guess I am saying that most ppl actually have a 'need' to believe it was for a just cause.
Put it this way, say a guy came to you very excited and confident that in 1 week the family next door was going to blow up your house. Say he went on and on about how he heard this and saw the bombs they had etc...
So, you said ok go get him and here is some money to go buy the weapons you need to get him out.
The next day the guy raids the neighbors house, captures him but in the process he kills 3 of the man's kids and his wife.
When all the dust has settled, come to find out, the neighbor was just a bad husband, bad father and a jerk but had no weapons, no plan to attack you and was no threat to anyone.
Now, how would you feel?
Would you be sick to your stomach? I would.
Would you regret it? I would.
Would you be rethinking your decision? I would.
Would you wish you had gotten more evidence? I would.
Would you wish you had waited and not felt so rushed? I would.
And the question that answers your question is:
Would you tell yourself, "... but I did what I thought was right at the time."
Get it?
That is what the mind must do and say to itself to handle such atrocities.
Does it excuse it? No
Does it justify it? No
Does it make it right? No
Should you be punished? Yes
2006-09-23 12:32:13
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answered by BeachBum 7
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1 the war is quite legal , did you bother to read the 17 UN resolutions all of which threat Iraq with military action if they do not submit to UN inspections prior to the 2nd war.( Iraq was never found to be in compliance)
2 Ever heard of the Safwan peace accord the one Iraq signed promising to cooperate with the UN in exchange for a cease in hostilities in the first gulf war , well don't forget in 98 they violated those agreements .
3. The world court said the war is illegal , but the US doest observe the world court .( I believe Jimmy Carter fixed that one in 1977)
So tell me are you not informed or are you a liar
2006-09-23 13:25:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, it is. What if another country determined that because the US has WMD's it poses an immediate threat to it??? It sounds far-fetched, but the reality is that you just can't go around invading other nations, because you feel threatened.
Try doing that in Texas. Let's say your crazy neighbor buys himself a couple M-1's, an AR-15, a bunch of Glocks, etc. You know the guy is nuts and frankly you consider him a threat. So you go in and waste him....think the Texas Rangers are going to buy your argument??
Pre-emptive wars are a very hard sell. And the fact that you have to sell it...should be evidence enough that it's just not the right thing to do.
2006-09-23 12:21:52
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answered by KERMIT M 6
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well the Un says alot of things, this coming from a party that ellected castro in charge of humane operations, ok how we doin so far.
and can you really prove this is a war for oil, i've heard it for a while now and it has yet to be proven any better than those con idiots who think bush blew up the twin towers.
2006-09-23 12:50:20
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answered by Anonymous
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Incorrect premise. We did not go to Iraq to fight for oil. We went because the terrorists were a threat to free societies all over the world. We went because there was a strong suspicion that they were hoarding weapons of mass destruction.
Now, before you jump all over me, just because we couldn't find them doesn't mean they aren't there. These people drove jumbo jets into our World Trade Center killing thousands, and the Pentagon and almost destroyed the White House.
And someone is intimating that our occupation is unjustified?????
2006-09-23 12:14:02
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answered by freedomnow1950 5
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True the UN has called this war illegal. That is a fact that can not be argued.
2006-09-23 12:10:01
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answered by remmo16 4
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The League of Untied Nations is a corrupt and obsolete body! Any thing they say is not worth the paper it is write on!
2006-09-23 12:09:49
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answered by Bawney 6
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Yes...and Bush and the rest of the Oil Mafia are going Straight to hell.
2006-09-23 12:18:56
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answered by hgfhvghj g 1
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well if oil for food and the rapings and other crimes their troops have comitted recently and all of kofi's antics are their view of legal.......i don't see their opinion mattering much at all anymore
***their troops being the UN controlled (explitive deleted) ***
2006-09-23 12:12:52
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answered by lethander_99 4
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