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Our nation was founded on Christian principals and a code of conduct toward all people. Recently our way of life has been under attack, under these circumstances is it now justifiable to deprive people of their liberty in secret prisons and use torture as a means of questioning? Have we oversteped our principals or are we simply defending ourselves?

2006-09-22 09:39:25 · 17 answers · asked by looking4ziza 3 in Politics & Government Other - Politics & Government

17 answers

ABSOLUTELY NOT !!

It is un-american. And besides, it gives our enemies an excuse to torture our soldiers if they get captured.

The way the new law will be written even a US citizen can be held and tortured if they are caught outside the country. So what's to stop the CIA to secretly transport a citizen they don't like outside the US to one of their secret prisons.

This is very dangerous. The CIA and Bush is out of control.

2006-09-22 09:57:14 · answer #1 · answered by Imaginer 4 · 1 1

Our nation was not founded on Christian principals, it was founded on the idea that all people should have the freedom to worship in their own way.. the protestants were fleeing religious persecution etc etc.

It would be nice if we were an ethical nation, but the existence of the secret prisons and the torture show this not to be the case. We have indeed overstepped the principals of ethics that are supposed to be in place in this country.
Separation of church and state is a requirement but casting off ethics is unacceptable. We are not defending ourselves, we are waging wars for political reasons. We fund organizations who's sole purpose is to overthrow legitimate in place governments. (IE: Cuba, Venezuela etc etc ) we do all this in secrecy. The current administration leads us into wars based on lies and continues to erode away our civil liberties (right to privacy is gone with the illegal wire tapping etc.)
The first step is to impeach Bush and get him put on trial for war crimes.. followed by a purge of the war mongers currently in our government.
Another good thing towards the goal of peace and ethics might be to start higher education universities for peace. (not my idea, but a damn good one.. you can read more in this blog http://silvaspoon.blogspot.com/)

2006-09-22 16:55:44 · answer #2 · answered by Silvatungfox 4 · 1 1

Yes indeed!! Just imagine the amount of local jobs that will be created with a 'Torture and secret prison' emporium opening in every mall across the country. Anyone without the skills to be an employee can be an inmate!! It's a win/win situation.

2006-09-22 16:48:49 · answer #3 · answered by eantaelor 4 · 0 1

I do not approve of secret prisons or torture, and depriving people of their liberty. HOWEVER, we live in a far different world than Quaker/Shaker/Christian-founded America. If there is plenty of evidence proving that someone wants to use airplanes to kill thousands of innocent people, then I'm willing to turn a blind eye.

2006-09-22 16:47:04 · answer #4 · answered by RockC 2 · 1 2

It is truly my belief that IF torture were occurring it would be just.
You cannot fight a war against terrorists, who are not afraid of death, without utilizing every tool at your disposal.
I also do not believe, like most, that IF we torture that makes us just as barbaric as them. Our personnel that would be doing this would be doing it to SAVE LIVES!!! That is a world of difference from the terrorist side that does it for enjoyment. In order for us to "stoop to their level" we would have to lose our humanity, and hurting 1 individual to save the lives of 5,10,50, 100, 1000 or more is worth it, again in my opinion.

2006-09-22 16:46:07 · answer #5 · answered by CrazyCatLady 4 · 0 1

YES
Has the USA been attacked since 9/11?
What liberties have you lost?
Don't count you can not get calls from terrorist from outside the USA without them being tapped.
Defending terrorist and being an apologist for them is traitorous and UN American
You spit in the face of all Americans
So just what Liberties did you loose? Come on coward name some you lost.

2006-09-22 16:45:11 · answer #6 · answered by buzzy360comecme 3 · 1 2

Come back on Earth, even Catholics burned people who didn't want to convert. That said, I do think that, from a military viewpoint, if you have to use any method to have a foot ahead of your enemy, go ahead! To me, war is a necessary evil, and like any other evil, war doesn't have principles. It's killed or be killed.

2006-09-22 19:45:24 · answer #7 · answered by cocaisawmd 2 · 1 0

No, it's not justifiable.

Some people feel that anything we do is okay, because we haven't beheaded anyone lately. Maybe it's just me, but I'd like us to have somewhat higher standards than that. Not least because the overwhelming majority of prisoners in Abu Ghraib, and many in Guantanamo, are/were entirely innocent of any charges.

2006-09-22 16:46:14 · answer #8 · answered by Bramblyspam 7 · 1 2

the Geneva convention only applies to military personnel.. in military uniforms.. not to terrorists that will torture us in a heart beat (and have) i think the liberals are making it much too hard to get the information we need by giving the terrorists too much power over us.. in a way we help them win.. which to me is sad..

2006-09-22 16:54:52 · answer #9 · answered by pain_made_me_beautiful 2 · 0 0

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. If the enemy brings a gun, bring a bigger, better gun. Trying to be the "better man" will just get you killed. When survival is at stake, you do whatever you have to do to stay alive.

Torture is like a nuke. You don't use it all the time, but you need it in your arsenal for special occasions.

2006-09-22 16:53:13 · answer #10 · answered by Aegis of Freedom 7 · 1 0

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