they got negative points?
2006-09-22 06:29:28 · 9 answers · asked by deedee zedel 2 in Sports ➔ Football ➔ Italian Football
I'll explain you. Milan was condemned for a phone call of an employee of the club not a director or sth with a referee's designator. He was complaining for a goal annulled to Milan last match (Siena v Milan lost by Milan 2-1) and asked for better referees in the future matches. This was a phone call that lasted 1 min & 40 sec exactly and the next match (which is the one & only for which Milan was condemned) was Milan v Chievo that finished 1-1 with another goal annulled to Milan. That's why there were no reasons to condemn the society at all coz there were no directors involved even if their phone calls were controlled all the time they didn't find anything. But the objective responsability says that even if the directors of a society are not involved, the society has to pay somehow, moreover if this society belongs to Berlusconi which was the former Prime Minister that lost the elections against his political 'enemy' Prodi...
Juve's directors were found guilty and it was proved that they tried to fix matches in order to win the Championship, which they won. Why would Milan want to fix matches, to loose the Championship?! Is it logical?! Milan was by far the best team since they played 2 Champions League finals in 3 years and they are still the first in the UEFA ranking for clubs and Berlusconi coudn't do anything like other say coz he had no power anymore. The government wasn't his government anymore and someone has to explain me why there were some Inter's directors phone calls too but they weren't taken into consideration and why the vice president of Inter is Troncheti Provera the President of Telecom who only these days left his position?!...
ADDITIONAL
The one & ONLY phone call for which Meani was condemned and every lawyer knows it was the 1 min & 40 sec phone call of Meani with Galliani. He said to him textually that he spoke to the designator and complained for the episode happened to the Siena v Milan match. He also added that he asked for better referees in the future (like Puglisi who was by the way an assistent) that hadn't refereed a match since a very long time only coz the last time he refereed Milan did it very well (which by the way many others doesn't) I agree there was a break of the article 1(like the passport of Recoba thing) but since it was for a match (and Recoba played 6 matches) and there was no prove that Galliani actually tried to fix a match (he didn't say anything in that call) Milan would maximally have a forfeit (like Inter in the Recoba case)
On the other hand Galliani as you may know was not condemned for trying to fix a match but for not reporting Meani after what he said to him, for being passive.
Come on you know Milan was the best team in the World those two years (they played a Champions League final etc) they couldn't win the Serie A after all the things referees did to them. I could mention you more than 10 episodes if you want. Why should they try to fix matches? They didn't do it in 20 years of Berlusconi. Why now?!
2006-09-22 06:54:53 · answer #1 · answered by milanist_girl 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sorry, milanist_girl, it's not true at all, and I guess you really know the truth.
1. Leonardo Meani was a Club's employee (actually, a lesser manager, his job was involving referees relationship, an usual role in football Clubs). The judgment (link, page 42) says (sorry, ugly translation, hope it's understandable) 'he was continuously asking to have ref assistans by his choose to officiate Milan match. The evidence is given from many phone calls between Meani, Puglisi (ref and assistant), Babini (ref and assistant), Contini, Mazzei (Referees Association Manager) and GALLIANI
2. GALLIANI definitively ISN'T an employee. He's Milan Second President and CEO, and President of Football Club Association...
3. GALLIANI was called on the phone from Meani who said he successfully 'hired' Babini and Puglisi to officiate Milan-Chievo match, and Galliani was agree (link, p.26).
4. So you can't say 'a director wasn't involved'! GALLIAN perfectly knows what was going on... about the final score 1-1, this is a useless detail to Law Courts. Juventus, Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio (and who knows how many other Clubs were partecipating - I agree with your suggestion about Inter / Moratti / Pirelli / Tronchetti Provera / Telecom...) all had 'their' refs and assistants, of course only one team would win the ship...
The accusation was - for every Club - 'violation of point 1., sportsmanship basic rule', and they all violated this law...
2006-09-25 04:39:13 · answer #2 · answered by erri 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Italian Federation couldn't find the same damaging proofs as for Juventus (they actually had tapes and video of alleged briberies involving Juventus officials) Bottom lime Milan had better sympathizers within the federation than Juventus - A shame - they should have also been banned from European competition -
2006-09-22 06:41:27 · answer #3 · answered by asyannis 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
They're own by Silvio Berlusconi the billionaire who until a few months ago was the president of Italy. It's a no brainer why they were spared; if 4 are guilty 4 should be punished not 1.
2006-09-24 13:26:11 · answer #4 · answered by tesorotx 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The truth of the matter is that Ac Milan has Berlusconi (Ex Prime Minister) as the owner of the club...I think that should say it all!
2006-09-22 17:55:42 · answer #5 · answered by Juventina 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Doesnt matter to me
FORZA AC MILAN!
2006-09-23 22:45:13 · answer #6 · answered by Richard H 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Maybe there is a little bit of more corruption hidden somewhere. Maybe someone was bribed to get to the kind of verdict which we are seeing. Talk about getting rid of corruption
2006-09-22 06:34:12 · answer #7 · answered by cool runings 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Berlusconi is their owner-enough said
2006-09-22 07:56:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
because berlusconi owns milan
not sure on spelling
2006-09-22 08:19:24 · answer #9 · answered by faveraus 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋