UK Home Secretary John Reid has made a speech asking Muslims to look out for extremism in their children.?

Question

Given that the extreme-right wing BNP claim to have made substantial gains in their youth division, shouldn't his warning have applied to all families, whever their ethnic orientation?

Answer 1

There is an element of cause and effect here, if the BNP are indeed making gains in their youth division, and I haven't read that they are, because they are usually deliberately ignored by the media, then I would say that it is largely because of the anti British and unpatriotic policies of this Government, together with acts of terrorism, that have helped bring it about.

The BNP are not a threat to this country per se, in fact, quite the reverse, they are trying to defend the country from the deeply unpatriotic actions and policies of this current Government. If that isn't immediately obvious to you, then I won't waste time trying to explain it. The problems associated with immigration are simply one of the more important manifestations of their appalling policy agenda.

The BNP, despite the venom routinely poured out by our supposedly impartial TV media (which is mainly left wing), is a properly and legally constituted political party. It has a right to be heard. I personally agree with many of the sentiments they express regarding the constant attack on our way of life. I would not, however, be prepared to go to extreme lengths to correct past policy mistakes made by this Government, nor indeed, by previous Governments: one has to be pragmatic. It has to be said, that there is no clear evidence that the BNP itself would go to extreme lengths in invoking it's own policies. The more it is ignored, however, the more extreme it is likely to become. Who can blame it? Moreover, I do not think that its policy objectives, as detailed in its manifesto, are extreme right wing. I make no comment or judgement about the methods it might employ to actually carry its policies out.

I think John Reids' speech to Muslim families smacks of desperation. I do not believe, anyway, that he will receive any additional cooperation. I say that, because any responsible parent, should already be doing what he was at great pains to request.

Notwithstanding, what I think about the usefulness, or otherwise, of John Reids' speech, I feel that you are being somewhat provocative in trying to draw a parallel between Islamic terrorism and the implied suggestion that recruits to a legally constituted political party, the BNP, are somehow presenting the same level of threat to the British people. I think not.

Answer 2

I do not like Reid at all, but to bring the B.N.P into the argument is simply a diversion.The B.N.P are not blowing people up and are therefore not relevant to the question.If Muslims wish to live in the U.K then they should abide by our laws and become British in all aspects.Look at history, and you will find that Muslims are very intolerant of other religions, but in the West will use the race card to gain an advantage over the host country.They will never be anything else other than Muslim first and therefore are not to be completely trusted.Their faith is above any host country,s laws.Thus making them the enemy within!

Answer 3

Does the BNP have any element that advocates violence to the extent that radical Islam does? I would take what the BNP claims with a pinch of salt. It could claim a 1000% increase in members, but if it only has three members to begin with that only means 30 more.
However, radical Islam has a track record in advocating violence and murder. That said, it's important to remember that Islam (particularly the radical kind) is an ideology, not something that automatically applies if you are from a certain ethnic community. I think you make that mistake in the question.

Answer 4

I made a question on this issue but you are coming at it from a different angle.
I know nothing about the right wing thing and I would be equally apposed to that too, considering the lives that were lost trying to rid the world of that terror.
I don't think that this is a parent thing though.
The football grounds are their recruiting area as are a lot of sedentary occupations and they are well beyond the age of grooming.
I don't think they use God as a motivator either and there is no after life reward unless they go to a brewery.

Answer 5

Basically yes, the request should be to all parents to take more responsibility for their children's behaviour. Aiming the request purely at Muslims is like waving a red rag to a bull in some people's eyes but please remember that Islam is a religion not an ethnic orientation. Many fall into the trap of assuming that all Asians are Muslim and that all Muslims are Asian when neither is the case.

Answer 6

I don't think so. I don't think he was being racist either. It is a fact that in this current climate it is young male muslims that are being brainwashed into joining these terrorist groups. This is real life and he's only saying what 99% of the British population are thinking but aren't allowed to for fear of being branded racist. What's wrong with giving advice to parents? Hardly inciting hatred against muslims is it?! It's okay for fanatics to incite hatred against us on the streets and praising the attacks on London and New York but no-one calls them racist or protests in front of them. Yet someone is trying to solve the problem of terrorism and is slated for the way he has approached it. If, for example, it was predominantly english white males converting to extremism I'd have no problem with being given advice on how to look out for signs and I wouldn't be offended either. But it's not and John Reid at least is trying to find a solution. It's like someone giving parents advice on what to look out for if their children were using drugs, alcohol etc. I'm fed up with the word racist being used willy nilly. I'm not and I have muslims friends who are black and some from bangladesh. Everyone wants rid of terrorism and at least John Reid has had the guts to do something about it.

Answer 7

Yes it should have, there are no particular social, relgious, political or other groups who can say they do not have members, however few, that are not ever prone to extreme ideas and behaviour. Moderation should be a quality we all aim to use in our actions and in the decisions we make. Singleing out any particular group like this is unfair and likely to be taken out of context/deliberately misinterpretated to fuel hatred. Why don't some of our politicians think a bit more about how influential they are and perhaps then the individuals at fault will engage their brains before opening their mouths.

Answer 8

I believe you, Charles Clark regarded like an upload for Toby Jugs, yet John Reid is the only Labour baby-kisser i like on the 2d. I perhaps going insane, yet he seems to communicate with some sincerity, and as he positioned it whilst he have been given the pastime, " i think of i've got been exceeded the poison challis ". Gorden Brown retains attempting to screw him up simply by fact he's conscious he's the only contender for the subsequent PM, so he's in a no longer common place on the mo. i could provide him extra time earlier passing judgement on his be attentive to-how.

Answer 9

What a stupid thing to do. It's the Muslims themselves who are teaching their kids hate and extremism. Britain has fallen so far from its greatness. Now it's blaming itself for the crimes committed by all the ethnic groups that have gained extraordinary power because of the political correctness that has become law there. I feel sorry for the average Britisher...

Answer 10

I cannot find any examples of BNP supporters or their offspring carrying out suicide bombings.

In fact I cannot find examples of any acts of terrorism of any sort carried out by the BNP or their followers.

I must add that I do not support the BNP and that I am married to a Muslim.