...would it be wrong for somebody to quote Churchill talking about Germany during a time of war with Germany?
2006-09-22 02:51:22 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in News & Events ➔ Current Events
Apparently it was a long speech by the Pope to a university and I think he was trying to say war and religious beliefs should not go hand in hand. The media and the fundamentalists took one small part of the speech and blew it up out of all proportions. The fundamentalists as usual over reacted in the extreme. They try to make out they are hard done by and being victimised. Here in the UK we bend over backwards not to antagonise them. They play on this and I can see the position reaching fever pitch shortly. We are quite a laid back nation but even the most moderate of us are well and truly sick of these people being pampered to. We allow them to say what they like but if the boot was on the other foot and we insulted them we would end up in court. They come over here enjoy the benefits of our health service and education. They are quick to claim as much benefit as possible and then have the nerve to insult us and our way of life. They say Islam is good and peaceful. Muslims died in 9/11 and the bombs in London. What they do is nothing to do with religion. It is all about power.greed and control of people. Muslims are killing each other in Iraq. Again it is nothing to do with religion - it is about who will rule the country. If they are not careful there will be an almighty backlash against them and they cannot say they are not asking for it. If they hate the West that much why don't they leave and go to Iraq or Iran. The pope did nothing wrong and had nothing to apologise for.
2006-09-22 03:48:12 · answer #1 · answered by david c 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If you are the President of USA and talking in a public lecture ( not a historical study or reaserch) about Germany and know that quoting Churchil will add more flames to an already inflamed situation in Germany then yes it would be wrong.Furthermore what noble idea was the Pope promoting by using this quote at this particular point in history? The Christian leader said what he said because he was at war with Islam at that time .So what is the point quoting him in public ? .
2006-09-22 10:08:57 · answer #2 · answered by incredible22 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know why the Pope is apologizing so profusly. It should be sufficient to say that he was taken out of context. Unfortunately, this seems to be what Islam does lately, they over react on every mention of Islam in a negative light. And for some reason, the rest of the world is being overly apologetic.
Islam was quick to distance themselves from terrorist events. And there are lot's of demonstrations in Islman populations where ephigies of the Pope or George Bush are burned, but you don't see the same kind of reaction for the Pope or the American camp. There have been no demands for apologies.
The non-Islamic community needs to stop pampering the Islamic community whenever they cry foul. Free speech should reign.
2006-09-22 09:59:02 · answer #3 · answered by grandbendbeachboy 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
very good point dude
people need to think like that more often.... its a mixture of not understanding things in context as well as the media taking only the controversial bits without conveying the message in its intirety...
Its all about political propaganda from leaders who cheaply capitalise (and need to depend) on statements like this to get attention and support.
Im not saying the Pope shouldve said it. He above all people shouldve seen this kind of childish reaction coming... if im not mistaken someone even replied "jihad and Islam" is like "Christianity and the Holy Trinity" ... WOT???
excerpt : Fauzan Al-Anshori, spokesman for the radical Indonesian Mujahideen Council, said the Pope misunderstood Islam and jihad (Islamic holy war or struggle) and challenged him to a dialogue.
"Muslims can't eliminate jihad from the Islamic discourse, the same way Christians can't do away with the doctrine of Trinity," he said.
I say again... WOT????
2006-09-22 10:12:30 · answer #4 · answered by smilyfs 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They are totally different topics, What the real question is, Is should have there been such a massive deal made about it?
Well there would not have been if the muslims and islams could accept and respect what other people have to say, they should not have taken it as a direct stereo-type of their culture because it was infact a quote.
I think sadly.. that they have just totally stereo-typed themselves
2006-09-22 09:53:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
As with anything, it depends on the audience.
The fact of the matter is, you have thousands of people who appear to be incapable of the self-control that most people teach their 3 year-olds, and they wait anxiously for the next excuse to riot and burn things.
I cannot imagine how badly normal, rational, sane Muslims must feel watching these idiots carry on, with each riot misleading more and more people into think that all Muslims are nothing better than barbaric savages.
2006-09-22 10:05:00 · answer #6 · answered by Jon T. 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not nearly as wrong as saying there is a war against or with a religion!
2006-09-22 09:58:59 · answer #7 · answered by Amber Jumelez 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
nothing wrong on that , that why the pope is downplaying those moslem clerics and try not to offend them mnore. and it is always the truth hurts that really counts that why moslem clerics are whining about the pope message to his flock
2006-09-22 11:34:47 · answer #8 · answered by lepactodeloupes 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
no, it's not wrong. he is just defending his faith, and at a time that christians are being defamed, it's not wrong to strike back. some extremist islams started this war because of our faith, and i think it's right that we defend our faith.
2006-09-22 09:59:33 · answer #9 · answered by Debi K 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Pope should stick his stupid hat in his mouth and clean up his own sexually perverted house before criticizing others.
2006-09-22 10:04:37 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋