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I was set this by a maths teacher and I can't get how to factorise it. Help!

2006-09-22 02:04:23 · 16 answers · asked by matt b 1 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

I'm after a run through of how to do it. My tutor hinted at it being something to do with substitution. E.g. x^4 = y^2 when y = x^2 making it a quadratic equation, etc.

2006-09-22 02:22:45 · update #1

btw this isn't homework its more of a challenge as he gave us the answer which is (x-1)(x-1)(2x+1)(x+2)

2006-09-22 02:24:36 · update #2

i think people are going a little too deep with the use of functions etc. this is part of a section of my course concerning quadratics and factorisation so it'll be something far more simple that the suggestions so far (am grateful for these however)

2006-09-22 09:53:39 · update #3

Thanks for pointing that out regarding the symbols being wrong. I copied it down right but typed it wrong?! Sorry! It should say 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 + x + 2 Ooops

Any ideas?

2006-09-23 12:41:58 · update #4

16 answers

By trial and error f(-2) = 2*16-8-24+2-2 =0
so x+2 is a factor

now
2x^4+x^3-6x^2-(x+2)
= 2x^4+4x^3-3x^3-6x^2-(x+2) spliting x^3 = 4x^3-3x^3
= 2x^3(x+2)-3x^2(x+2)-(x+2)
=(x+2)(2x^3-3x^2-1)

Now I take the correct form and see

2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 + x + 2

now coffecient of x/ coefficient of x^4 = 1
try 1 and -1
with 1 f(1) = 2+1-6+1+2 =0
so (x-1) is a factor
2x^4 -2x^3 +3x^3-3x^2-3x^2+3x-2x+2 ( split the item so that it is = of the previous coffecient + some thing)
= 2x^3(x-1) +3x^2(x-1)-3x(x-1)-2(x-1)
=(x-1)(2x^3+3x^2-3x-2)
again try 1 and -1 and for 1 it is zero so x-1 comes again
2x^3-2x^2+5x^2-5x+2x-2
= 2x^2(x-1)+5x(x-1) +2(x-1)
= (x-1)(2x^2+5x+2)
=(x-1)(
2x+1)(2x+2) last being quaddratic can be factored
hence sloution = (x-1)^2(2x+1)(x+2)

2006-09-22 02:15:48 · answer #1 · answered by Mein Hoon Na 7 · 1 0

E = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2.

If you are not supposed to know the general formula, then it means that there is a trick. I tried to see if the formula has some obvious roots [because, if r is a root, then (x - r) is a factor].

I tried 0, 1, -1, 2 : No.
-2 : Bingo: 32 + (-8) - 24 - (-2) - 2 = 0.

So we know that (x - (-2)) = (x+2) is a factor.
Now we have to calculate the other factors.
You can do it progressively starting at the highest power of x.
You pose the factor that you want (x+2) and you see what you should add / remove to obtain the term.

2x^4 = 2x^3 (x + 2) - 4 x^3.
[because 2x^3 (x+2) = 2x^4 [what you need] + 4x^3]

So: E = 2x^3 (x + 2) - 4 x^3 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2
= 2x^3 (x+2) - 3 x^3 - 6 x^2 - x - 2.

Do the same with next term (3 x^3), replace and simplify.
-3x^3 = -3x^2 (x+2) + 6x^2

E = 2x^3 (x+2) -3x^2 (x+2) + 6x^2 - 6 x^2 - x - 2.
= 2x^3 (x+2) -3x^2 (x+2) - x - 2

This one is obvious:
-x - 2 = - (x+2)

So:

E = 2x^3 (x+2) -3x^2 (x+2) - (x+2)

E = (2x^3 -3x^2 - 1) (x+2)

Edit: Ok, other people were faster.

However you can still factorize it, there is another real root, but it is not obvious and you need the formula to factorize a 3rd degree formula. I guess that the teacher is not asking for that. The root is: R2 = 1/2 + 1/6 V3(81 - 54 . V2(2)) + 1/2 . V3(3 + 2 V2(2))

Where V2(x) is square root of x and V3 is cubic root.
So (x - R2) is another factor... but I guess this is not wanted.

2006-09-22 09:36:17 · answer #2 · answered by bloo435 4 · 1 0

Let f(x) = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2

Using Remainder Theorem,
f(-2) = 32 - 8 - 24 + 2 - 2 = 0
So (x+2) must be a factor of f(x).

Let f(x) = (x+2)(ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d)
By comparing coefficients,
x^4: a = 2
constant: d = -1
x^3: 1 = 2a + b => 1 = 2(2) + b => b = -3
x^2: -6 = 2b + c => -6 = 2(-3) + c => c = 0

So f(x) = (x+2)(2x^3 - 3x^2 - 1)

The function 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 1 is difficult to solve and when I used an online graphic calculator, I discovered that the value for x is 1.688.

2006-09-24 22:23:35 · answer #3 · answered by Kemmy 6 · 1 0

hi.

2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2= 0

using trial and error method u'll get the first root, x= -2
since x= -2 is a root of the eq., therefore, (x+2) is one of the factor,


let P(X) = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2
P(-2) = 0
therefore,
P(X) = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2 = (x+2)(2x^3 + Ax^2 + Bx -1)

comparing the coefficient of x
2B - 1 = -1
2B = 0
B = 0
therefore,

P(X) = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2 = (x+2)(2x^3 + Ax^2 -1)

comparing the coefficient x^2,
2A = -6
A = -3

therefore,

P(X) = 2x^4 + x^3 - 6x^2 - x - 2 = (x+2)(2x^3 - 3x^2-1)

u can't factorise further as u'll get imaginary roots.

hope i helped a little. Good Luck !!!

2006-09-22 09:22:44 · answer #4 · answered by Nirmal87 2 · 0 0

For one thing your teacher has given you the wrong answer. If you expand (x-1)(x-1)(x+2)(2x+1) you actually get 2x^4+x^3-6x2+x+2.

The equation you have given can only be factorised as:

(x+2)(2x^3-3x^2-1)

Which I think has already been stated above.

You need to double check with your teacher that have copied out the assignment correctly.

2006-09-23 12:03:58 · answer #5 · answered by Andrew W 4 · 0 0

lol ok anyway this equals
x^2(2x^2+ x-6) - x-2 so this equals
x^2(2x-3)(x+2)-(x+2) =(x+2)(x^2 ( 2x-3) -1 )
so this equals (x+2) (2x^3-3x^2-1)
just simple math

2006-09-22 10:19:13 · answer #6 · answered by weswes 1 · 0 0

When doing factorization - use this acronym:

Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally

Please = parenthesis
Excuse = exponents
My & Dear = multiplication & division
Aunt & Sally = addition and subtraction

If you use this order of operations, then you will get the correct answer.

Good luck!

2006-09-22 09:14:52 · answer #7 · answered by oscarschic 3 · 0 2

Gas mark 5 for 2 1/2 hours....then baste and cook for a further 3 hours on gas mark 3....
As you can see , i have no idea , but i bet you smiled at my answer.? :)

2006-09-22 09:15:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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2006-09-22 09:23:41 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

(2x^4 + x^3) - (6x^2 + x + 2)

???

2006-09-22 09:08:32 · answer #10 · answered by Walter W. Krijthe 4 · 0 2

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