This is an controversial question but i wanna know peoples views?

Question

i m not trying to fuel hate so dont go crazy with answers but this is for british people, what would it take to actually piss us off what would it take to make us stand up for what we believe because our free speech is gone, our leaders are laughing stocks (poodle blair on bushes lap) and our religious figures have their pictures burnt and we have people who stand here on TV and disply signs that say britain you re 9/11 is coming , in france it takes nothing to make them burn there sheep (i am not condoning burning livestock) but does anyone think that we will ever care or are we just the laziest country in the world

Answer 1

I think you'll find that several million people did stand up against the Iraq war but Blair didn't take any notice. After that people probably saw it as a pointless excercise standing up for what they believe in in future.

Answer 2

You make several good points and It's brilliant that someone can say these things without resorting to racism. People did march against the last Gulf War and continue to oppose it today. The thing is, Britain has, as you say become so used to democracy that abuse on all sides is tolarated by the public.

Look what happened in Hungary recently, when their President let slip he'd lied about the economy, huge demonstrations and fairly vicious riots occured in Budapest.

Hungary has had democracy for barely a dozen years so they know exactly what it means to them. France also had a military regime up until around 30 years back, so they're also quite militant when they feel their rights are being eroded. Look at the demostrations they had over the student under-employment problem, forcing a government which had talked tough into reversing their stance.

It's my fervent hope that if you asked people to fight for the government, they'd say no, but ask them to fight for democracy then they'd be signing up right away. I hope this is the case anyway.

Answer 3

This country needs an uprising. One that will make the government sit up and listen. The last one was the Poll Tax riots and it gave them food for thought hence the new name of Council Tax. Not that it made much of a change but it calmed the people for a while. Slowly though the tax has risen over the years.

The longer we sit back and do nothing. The more these fat cats in government will make decisions for us. Ones that we are not happy with. The rich get richer and the poor just take it on the chin. If everybody stood together it would make a difference.

Maggie Thatcher gave everybody the right to buy their council house as she knew this would keep them off the streets rioting. If you look at what happened in this country in the 70's the whole country was in uproar and the government was worried.

Power to the people

Answer 4

The people of Britain can bide their time. Governments come and go. For most of us, governments make little impact. While it is easy to suggest the people desire reform, the reality is that they do not. The people of Britain are deeply conservative, [that's with a small 'c' by the way] and on the whole prefer continuity to change. The thing to bear in mind concerning the British people, is that by and large, we are a nation of natural born sceptics. This means that much of what politicians might say is held at arms length in full daylight and seen through for what it really is. Mostly hot air by the way. The most important thing to bear in mind concerning the people of Britain, is that we have never collectively agreed on anything in our entire history, save the issue of the Battle of Britain. When Winston Churchill told the people of the impending battle, following the fall of France, the people rolled up their sleeves on got on with the business in hand. Since then however, we have all gone our separate ways, squabbling and disagreeing on all and every subject under the sun. We are a DEMOCRACY - be it so ever.

Answer 5

I don't liek to talk about "classes" but middleclass Britain, are the majority unfortuanlty we ( I consider myself middleclass if I have too ) Work and have a fairly smooth ride compared to other groups.

I for years have always said what I think in public to whoever asks for my views, unfortunatly the only real answers to most "issues" are seen as radical or extreme.

For example we have an immigration issue, so shut our doors completely until we have sorted it out, processed all the pending cases rounded up all the AWOL immigrants, then allow people to enter under stricter guidelines for example a person being persicuted in Bosnia's first port of call for asylum would not be the U.K the only reason they head here is because we are seen as a soft touch compared to France, Germany or Spain.

These are not racist views merely practical solution to a problem.

I digress, the answer to your question is don't feel that your voice will isolate you say what you think at least that way you can't be perceived as sly or cunning and people will know where they stand with you.
Don't be a fence sitter.

Answer 6

This is a tricky one.

It is well known that, in Britain, apathy is growing. Voter numbers have fallen consistently since the 1960's culminating in Tony Blair winning a 2005 majority with only a third of the vote.

Politics has become managerial - Instead of consulting with trades unions, the "biggest focus group in the country", Blair and New Labour have outsourced to statistic friendly focus groups. There is very little direct democracy. The politics of the once sensible left have been hijacked by unthinking teenagers.

I'm sure you're familiar with scenes of anti-war protests. Now, if you subtract the kids who wander around in Che t-shirts (bought in Primark for £3) without a clue, the poor students hijacked by the SWP, who don't know what they mean anymore, and the idiots who proclaim that Bush is the world's biggest human rights offender, you're left with (sadly) a small bunch of people who actually do care.

These people are involved in grass roots organisations, in their local community. They understand that there is such a thing as society, and are working to make things better in their area. If you're feeling disillusioned, try making touch with your local groups - you'll find they are anything but lazy, and in fact, need inexhaustible people to help them.

I don't think people in this country are lazy, but it is hard, and fruitless to battle against a government and media that are so tightly conjoined that it leaves your average Joe thinking "well, they're all the same, why should I vote?" I'm sure you've heard this before.

It is only by talking to one another, and listening, that action will do. It's no use relying on the Daily Mail...

Answer 7

WE do have free speach more so than the Americans. However, the insigtment to religious hatred act is an infringement on this. It have been brought in such a way that it appear liberal - much of what NEW labours policies seem to do, appearing to do something whilst underhandedly acutaly doing something else.

1 Million people marched against the Iraq war and our democratically elected govenment ignored that fact. Blair does not even listen to his cabinet so why expect him to listen to anyone else. I think there in lies our problem when Britain does stand up to what it believes in it falls on deaf ears.

Perhaps a new policical party that anwsers to an online community needs to be born. A party that listens to the people and reacts to what they want. Fancy being prime minister?

Answer 8

You contradict yourself, you say “poodle Blair” for backing G.W. Bush on the war on terror, but then you say we are doing nothing about the people who holed up signs saying “you re 9/11 is coming”.
You’re the perfect example of the naivety of the average Jo Blog’s. You fail to grasp the complexity of global politics and to see the efforts put in by the people working for your freedom.
If you think more can be done, why don’t you do some thing about it!

Answer 9

We always seem too shy and embarassed to make a fuss (stiff upper lip and all that) - I'm not sure if there is anything that would annoy us so much that we would all march over to downing street burning everything in sight (or sheep like the French).

Although rioting does not solve anything, I wish sometimes we would stand up a bit more to protect our society and values as Brits.

Answer 10

Well that's a good question.
Thing is we are a very liberal country, I don't think most British citizens realise the differences between us and a lot of other countries. So I suppose were used to 'putting up with' a lot of what happens. But then when then BNP wins elections most people tend to react against that, or against the poll tax.

Maybe most people are lazy because by and large their lives are ok so there's nothing to get too angry about.