The peaceful invasion of Islam into Europe. (Read on) What have you got to say about it?

Question

Leave Europe for european's or let the freeflow of 3rd world immigrants continue (Particularly Islamic) ???

Answer 1

you left no link...but I suggest everyone pick up a copy of the economist, about 5 months ago they did a cover story called " Eurabia"...


Next read

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/13/60minutes/main617270.shtml

tHEN
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1109334-3,00.html

LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THIS EXCELLENT ARTICLE BY Mark Steyn

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Wake up, Europe, you've a war on your hands

November 6, 2005

BY MARK STEYN SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Ever since 9/11, I've been gloomily predicting the European powder keg's about to go up. ''By 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots and assassinations on the news every night,'' I wrote in Canada's Western Standard back in February.

Silly me. The Eurabian civil war appears to have started some years ahead of my optimistic schedule. As Thursday's edition of the Guardian reported in London: ''French youths fired at police and burned over 300 cars last night as towns around Paris experienced their worst night of violence in a week of urban unrest.''

''French youths,'' huh? You mean Pierre and Jacques and Marcel and Alphonse? Granted that most of the "youths" are technically citizens of the French Republic, it doesn't take much time in les banlieus of Paris to discover that the rioters do not think of their primary identity as ''French'': They're young men from North Africa growing ever more estranged from the broader community with each passing year and wedded ever more intensely to an assertive Muslim identity more implacable than anything you're likely to find in the Middle East. After four somnolent years, it turns out finally that there really is an explosive ''Arab street,'' but it's in Clichy-sous-Bois.

The notion that Texas neocon arrogance was responsible for frosting up trans-Atlantic relations was always preposterous, even for someone as complacent and blinkered as John Kerry. If you had millions of seething unassimilated Muslim youths in lawless suburbs ringing every major city, would you be so eager to send your troops into an Arab country fighting alongside the Americans? For half a decade, French Arabs have been carrying on a low-level intifada against synagogues, kosher butchers, Jewish schools, etc. The concern of the political class has been to prevent the spread of these attacks to targets of more, ah, general interest. They seem to have lost that battle. Unlike America's Europhiles, France's Arab street correctly identified Chirac's opposition to the Iraq war for what it was: a sign of weakness.

The French have been here before, of course. Seven-thirty-two. Not 7:32 Paris time, which is when the nightly Citroen-torching begins, but 732 A.D. -- as in one and a third millennia ago. By then, the Muslims had advanced a thousand miles north of Gibraltar to control Spain and southern France up to the banks of the Loire. In October 732, the Moorish general Abd al-Rahman and his Muslim army were not exactly at the gates of Paris, but they were within 200 miles, just south of the great Frankish shrine of St. Martin of Tours. Somewhere on the road between Poitiers and Tours, they met a Frankish force and, unlike other Christian armies in Europe, this one held its ground ''like a wall . . . a firm glacial mass,'' as the Chronicle of Isidore puts it. A week later, Abd al-Rahman was dead, the Muslims were heading south, and the French general, Charles, had earned himself the surname ''Martel'' -- or ''the Hammer.''

Poitiers was the high-water point of the Muslim tide in western Europe. It was an opportunistic raid by the Moors, but if they'd won, they'd have found it hard to resist pushing on to Paris, to the Rhine and beyond. ''Perhaps,'' wrote Edward Gibbon in The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire, ''the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet.'' There would be no Christian Europe. The Anglo-Celts who settled North America would have been Muslim. Poitiers, said Gibbon, was ''an encounter which would change the history of the whole world.''

Battles are very straightforward: Side A wins, Side B loses. But the French government is way beyond anything so clarifying. Today, a fearless Muslim advance has penetrated far deeper into Europe than Abd al-Rahman. They're in Brussels, where Belgian police officers are advised not to be seen drinking coffee in public during Ramadan, and in Malmo, where Swedish ambulance drivers will not go without police escort. It's way too late to rerun the Battle of Poitiers. In the no-go suburbs, even before these current riots, 9,000 police cars had been stoned by ''French youths'' since the beginning of the year; some three dozen cars are set alight even on a quiet night. ''There's a civil war under way in Clichy-sous-Bois at the moment,'' said Michel Thooris of the gendarmes' trade union Action Police CFTC. ''We can no longer withstand this situation on our own. My colleagues neither have the equipment nor the practical or theoretical training for street fighting.''

What to do? In Paris, while ''youths'' fired on the gendarmerie, burned down a gym and disrupted commuter trains, the French Cabinet split in two, as the ''minister for social cohesion'' (a Cabinet position I hope America never requires) and other colleagues distance themselves from the interior minister, the tough-talking Nicolas Sarkozy who dismissed the rioters as ''scum.'' President Chirac seems to have come down on the side of those who feel the scum's grievances need to be addressed. He called for ''a spirit of dialogue and respect.'' As is the way with the political class, they seem to see the riots as an excellent opportunity to scuttle Sarkozy's presidential ambitions rather than as a call to save the Republic.

A few years back I was criticized for a throwaway observation to the effect that ''I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark." But this is why. In defiance of traditional immigration patterns, these young men are less assimilated than their grandparents. French cynics like the prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, have spent the last two years scoffing at the Bush Doctrine: Why, everyone knows Islam and democracy are incompatible. If so, that's less a problem for Iraq or Afghanistan than for France and Belgium.

If Chirac isn't exactly Charles Martel, the rioters aren't doing a bad impression of the Muslim armies of 13 centuries ago: They're seizing their opportunities, testing their foe, probing his weak spots. If burning the 'burbs gets you more ''respect'' from Chirac, they'll burn 'em again, and again. In the current issue of City Journal, Theodore Dalrymple concludes a piece on British suicide bombers with this grim summation of the new Europe: ''The sweet dream of universal cultural compatibility has been replaced by the nightmare of permanent conflict.'' Which sounds an awful lot like a new Dark Ages.
Copyright © Mark Steyn, 2005

Answer 2

The same kind of thing is happening in the USA which is being 'peacefully' invaded by Mexico. In another 10-20 years they will have a majority in the southwest border states and will be conquering us politically without firing a shot. The same thing will happen in Europe as the Muslim populations get to a level where they control the governments and legislatures. They have already given France a fine howdy this Summer. More to follow; I watch with great interest as this dilemma progresses.

Answer 3

You are apparently unaware of the same case being evidenced in Canada... just across our border.. The influx is enormous and they are still coming. They have set up more than 50 cells (that are known) and are under surveillance. Cells in Mexico may be known but have not been exposed by the media yet.

The more drastic aspect of this is; the ones agitating in England are being deported rather than confined.. allowing them to continue their dastardly planning at some other location.

Answer 4

I laughed when I saw peaceful and Islam in the same sentence.
Ya, bring on the immigrants... maybe the Western world will catch on and want to have limited civil rights, ***-backwards thinking and be completely restricted by ritual.

Answer 5

Peaceful?? Strange word to use when in my experience they cause everything OTHER than peace!! There are problems wherever they go! They do not know the meaning of the word PEACEFUL!!

Answer 6

Peaceful, you mean like the peaceful guy who killed the film maker, or the peaceful rioters who burned France for weeks?

Answer 7

It won't be long before Euros are living under Sharia law. Convert or die will be the new motto.

Enjoy.

Answer 8

what goes round comes around. In the past, the west conquered the asian and middle east countries and now its reversed with the asians migrating and finding jobs in the west.

Answer 9

ISLAM IS THE FASTES GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUE RELIGION.

www.sultan.org

Answer 10

when there is global justice, fewer people will migrate. if you seriously think europe will ever be muslim, you are a little silly.

Answer 11

Don't you have enough problems of your own , you have to invite more , from anywhere .