When Jordan occupied the West Bank and Egypt occupied Gaza why didn't they form a Palestinian state back then?

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Answer 1

Actually LeeSword, YOU'RE the one with a weak grasp on history. It was Hussein who said "It will be my honor to return PALESTINE to its rightful owners"..Why didnt he?? Hmmm?
Israel is only an excuse Islam uses in the west to further their cause of conquest. If the wealthy Arab countries wanted to solve many of the hardships of the Gaza Strip, as well as other hardships of their Palestinian "brothers," they could easily do so. The latest increase in oil prices added more than $50 billion to their bank accounts, according to the estimates of economists. There would be a tremendous change for the better in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The problem is that the Arab countries are not even keeping their minimal promises to assist the Palestinian Authority. They want other countries - Japan, the United States and countries in Europe - to increase their contributions.

The disregard of Palestinian distress on the part of the Arab countries deepens the vacuum that the Iranians and the Al-Qaida extremists are trying to penetrate. In the final analysis, the Arab countries will also have to pay the bill. Apparently, those who claim there are Arab rulers who are interested in having the Israeli-Palestinian conflict continue, in order to divert the attention of the masses in their countries from their severe distress, are correct.

Israel was legally created out of the dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. The area was desolate – desert and swamp – with some small towns and a few inhabitants, many of them nomads.
The inhabitants, if they thought about it at all, considered themselves Syrians. The legitimacy of Israel arises from the Balfour Declaration issued by the British, who were given the mandate over the area by the League of Nations. Jews have lived in the country since Biblical times. The Arabs from the surrounding areas were lured to “Palestine” by the industry and prosperity that the Jews brought to the region. Envy, hatred, and religious fanaticism turned the Arabs against the Jews. In bloody outrages, horrible massacres, killings and rapes, the Arabs tried to dislodge the Jews, but were unable to do so.

In 1947, the British, having tired of the trouble and the bloodshed, resigned their mandate. That same year, the United Nations mandated partitioning of the territory. The Jews, though disappointed, accepted the partition. The Arabs rejected it out of hand and launched war against Israel. The armies of five Arab countries invaded the nascent state. Following the exhortations of the invaders, the Arab residents got out of the way hoping to return after victory was attained. They could then reclaim their property and that of the Jews, all of whom would have been killed or would have fled. That and that alone is the source of the Arab “refugee problem.”

Had the Arabs accepted the UN partition plan, there would now have been a state of “Palestine” for the last 58 years. They might have attained a similar level of prosperity, advancement, and development as Israel, which, small though it is, is today in almost every regard one of the world’s most advanced countries.

They might even had deserved the right to be called "palestinian".


It is instructive to read the Palestine National Charter of 1964. Here are some excerpts:

Article 16: ...the people of Palestine, desiring to befriend all nations
which love freedom, justice, and peace, look forward to their support in
restoring the legitimate situation to Palestine, ... and [in] enabling its
people to exercise national sovereignty and freedom.

Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty
over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, [or] on the Gaza Strip

The founding document of the PLO says that they are not entitled to the West Bank or Gaza! Yet now much of the West believes that the cause of the conflict is the Israeli presence in parts of the West Bank! When the PLO wrote their charter Jordan was in control of the West Bank and they wanted Jordanian support. Their goal was to annihilate Israel not a state in the West Bank. Zuheir Mohsein, a member of the supreme council of the PLO said, in an interview with the Dutch Daily Trouw (3/31/1977):

There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity, because it is in the interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity in contrast to Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is there only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new expedient to continue the fight against Zionism and for Arab unity.

The wars in the Middle East are about fighting Zionism, the right of the Jews to Israel, not about creating a terrorist Palestinian State. That is just a brilliant and very successful tactic.

In 2001, when Israel’s PM Ehud Barak offered Yasser Arafat East Jerusalem, 97% of the ‘West Bank’ and 3% compensation from Israel’s territory, in addition to all of Gaza (the Taba Negotiation), and Arafat turned it down without so much as a counteroffer.

Answer 2

You really don't have any kind of grasp on that area's history, do you?

Palestine as a nation and a "land" came into being during the Roman Empire about AD 90 or so after the Romans crushed the Jewish rebellions and destroyed the Second Temple, then dispersed the Jews.

Palestine was part of TransJordan Mandate awarded by the League of Nations to Britain after WWI (France got Lebanon, which was carved out of the old Syria) during the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. The records of Palestine, the nation and "land", are part of the UK's official records and those of the United Nations. The "land" had some 3 million residents and more than a dozen cities of more than 40,000 population and was very peaceful.

Palestine was a multi-racial (Jews, British and Arabs) as well as a multi-religious entity (Islam, Jews and dozens of Christian groups, some dating back to the earliest years of Christianity) until 1948 when the Zionists from Europe finally forced the British to withdraw their troops and give up their attempts to get these NEW Jews to behave themselves.

Once the British troops departed, the Jews began killing the Palestinians and driving them from their ancient homes, farms and businesses. You see the net result today.

The West Bank was actually part of the national territory of Jordan after the first Jew War of 1947 and only later did King Hussein set it free in order to avoid another war with "Israel". The same is true of the Gaza Strip, which was a legal part of Egypt until the Jews seized it during a later war with the Arabs.

Answer 3

Because at that time it was consider like a part of Jordan and a part of Egypt.
A idea of a Palestinian state came later when Israel won the wars against these states. In the treaties, Jordan and Egypt were oblige to leave these lands to Israel and they accepted. In 1969, Yasser Arafat become the leader of PLO and his main obsession was first to destroy Israel and when he saw it was impossible, he thought the best way was to create a state with the parts of territories lost by Jordan and Egypt.

He claimed a Palestinian state in 1988 with Eastern Jerusalem for capital.

Answer 4

properly it’s a sprint a sticky subject. The Arabs as quickly as massacred each Jew in Hebron (1929), going to this point as to dig up and desecrate the graves of their victims while they took Hebron from Israel in 1948. Israel reclaimed Hebron in 1967, any Jews residing there could have been granted Israeli citizenship. on the time, each Arab there grew to become right into a Jordanian citizen. further, Israel took back the Gaza strip in 1967 and any Jews there could have been granted citizenship, different than that it’s a tragic historic fact that the Arabs deported or killed each Jew who had lived there while they captured the territory from Israel in 1948. As with the West financial business enterprise, all the Arabs in Gaza have been Egyptian voters.

Answer 5

LOL. Logic doesn't apply.