i've noticed this thing a couple of times, when a child hits/hurts another child, the child hurt goes to the teacher, u know what the teacher says??? 'you must have done something first!!!' don't you think that is unfair?? obviously, someone must have started the fight but why the person who got hurt? it could have been the other. Why is it like this????
another thing, in primary school, theres a kid, and he's not bad. But no one lets him play in the playgroung, if he goes to his teacher and says ' no one's playing with me.'..they go ' you must make friends' and send the kid off again. do you think that is right? don't you think the teacher should arrange lil groups... so they get to know the child.....
once i read in a book, that in school there was a policy, if a child had difficulty making friends the teachers would arrange lil groups of children to play toogether, so they all would get to know each other..............
2006-09-19 19:18:36 · 11 answers · asked by The Wayfarer 6 in Education & Reference ➔ Primary & Secondary Education
o... i think there should be a certain amount of training a lunchtime superviser must go through...half the time they are supervising instead of the teaccher, and mostly problems of bullying occur during the lunch hour!
2006-09-19 19:31:00 · update #1
I think a teacher must think in a wider context: she has 20 or 30 kids to care for, and she can't be next to every pupils. BUT: most of the bad behaviour problems come from the kids getting bored. They haven't learned (yet) how to play with other kids, how to co-operate with others. Co-operation is the most important thing that a person has to learn in his/her early years, but they must be taught how to do it. In the sandpit, in the schoolyard, in the nursery and in the classroom. They can't play as a default. Each person around a child has responsibility in showing good example and a teacher has to TEACH children HOW TO play together, start games, involve children into the games and take part in them, at the beginning actively and full-time, and it's only later that she/he can draw slowly back and let them play together. The teacher's important role in the free time that he must provide the ideas and the tools of playing so that the kids don't have the time to think about mischief. Mischief comes from an idle mind - so we have to give them no chance to occur.
I know it's very difficult for a teacher to do that, but I've met very good teachers who did not just stand in the schoolyard and talk to other teachers while the kids were 'playing', but they started playing with them. Kids loved them and they had no serious behaviour problem with them while other teachers were complaining about the same group. Of yourse you must be a very dedicated teacher to do that, and it's sometimes extremely difficult to play around when you are tired or sad, but it's worth the effort on the long run.
2006-09-19 19:51:10 · answer #1 · answered by Agnes K 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The child shouldn't be dismissed if they have n-one to play with so easily. I would advise against forcing cchildren into friendship groups- this happened to me when I was younger and it was an awful experience! However some schools now have a designated spot/ bench which is known as somewhere you can go to 'pick up' a friend to play with. To help the children make better use of this it could be manned by a dinner lady or older children on rotation. Some school also have dinner ladies provide toys and organise games which helps to ensure children are not left out.
I think it is difficult for teachers when a child comes to them and says they are hurt if the teacher is involved in something else, but I agree again that she seems to be very dismissive of the child. I try and teach the children to sort it out amongst themselves- they have to tell the other child to stop what they are doing, and I support them in this if it's required, or if the situation continues. Of course this will not always work, and if one particular child was coming to me more than any other I would find out more about the situation. Also talking to the whole class about the rules and why they need to be followed can be effective.
2006-09-20 02:26:13 · answer #2 · answered by emily_jane2379 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Bullying is insidious. I don't know if training helps though I love the idea of a spot bench. I am a teacher and I hate bullying.
1. a good teacher will have some sort of nose for the rights and wrongs of it, but there are still surprises
2. children have learned to use the word bullying as a weapon and often inappropriately. There is a pattern to real bullying it is not a 'one off'
3. you can't really differentiate between bullying in school and out of it because what happens outside school influences what happens inside it
4. in the most frustrating case I have known the victim was so jumpy she would often put the boot in first. I could not solve it until I found that out.
5 I have no general solutions, but if anyone thinks their child is being victimised try to find out as much about it as you can, ask other children. Look at the quality of friends he or she has. Are they really on your child's side?
6 whole school policies help.
6 comments, it's hardly an answer
2006-09-20 04:58:37 · answer #3 · answered by Richard T 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all, it doesn't matter who started it, it matters how it is handled. Both children need to be talked to. The child should not directly go to the teacher, but try to work it out with the other kid first. Otherwise he/she is a "tattle tale" and the kids won't want to play with a tattle tale. Usually kids pick on each other, and then one gets out of hand. My son always got upset about things kids did to him, but usually he did something, which seemed innocent enough, but the kid did not like it and reacted angrily.
Communication is something we have to teach children: to speak out and stand up for themselves and let the bully know that they are hurt, they are angry, and they will not stand for it.
Second, if a child is not making friends, then usually that means that there is something else going on. It is a good idea for the parent to meet with the school counselor or teacher to discuss their child's shyness or other problems. I myself was very shy in school and ate lunch in the bathroom. It is difficult for children to make friends if they are dealing with their parent's divorce, a move to another city, or some other big change in their lives. It's important to talk to your kids about these changes and let them know that you are their best friend. Also discussing ways to make friends, such as initiating a game with other kids, or asking to play with someone already in a game. Usually the other kids will accept this child and allow them to play. If they don't, then the child should tell the recess duty, after they have made an attempt.
The point here is to empower the child, so the child learns to become more independent and confident, and responsible for him/herself.
2006-09-20 02:26:48 · answer #4 · answered by Andrea S 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I gave up complaining to the school and took thinks into my own
hands !
I found out where the bullies lived and went around to the parents
later on in the evening ( hoping that the children where asleep ).
I used to ask the parents if they knew what their children where up to at school,told them ( mostly it was concerning not even my children ) that they where bullying other mostly smaller children,
I was successful 99% of the time !
The parents always thanked me for telling them and sorted the problem out with their children ! May
be I was just lucky !
2006-09-20 03:47:48 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah, I've seen that sort of things happen. I don't think it should be counted as bullying. But there must be reasons why they don't like him. Maybe he's too shy to ask people to be his friend. Maybe he just need to be more open and outgoing. Tell him to bring some chocolates or candies to school next time, and offer them to the other kids, he'll make heaps of friends in no time!
2006-09-20 02:36:33 · answer #6 · answered by No-one 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
So basically you're saying that the teacher has the power/control over students.Makes sense....just that sometimes it's tough being a teacher and still have no control over your life.....i'm talking about myself now(lol).Anyway,getting back to ur question-yes,if the teacher is qualified,then he/she should know the solution to overcome the student's problem,or else that school had better send them for further training sweetie..yes,training from time to time(eg.during holidays).that's what all schools should do.
2006-09-20 02:50:10 · answer #7 · answered by fadly j 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Its true what you say they should make little groups it would be easier for the child to mix with others, I think alot of Teachers just cant be ars*d with things like that choosing to stand with there coffee and chat on with there own little group of teachers!!
2006-09-20 02:24:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
yes I agree and teachers must have better training.
2006-09-20 02:21:07 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I completely agree
2006-09-20 02:27:08 · answer #10 · answered by Matthew H 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋