Archie Griffin won two Heisman awards, but was a flop in the pros. Anyone know why?
2006-09-19 18:31:07 · 16 answers · asked by Superstar 5 in Sports ➔ Football (American)
He was basically a flop yes.
He was undersized and just didn't have the NFL skill set to be successful.
Lets not forget they are really two different leagues. What often works in college, doesn't in the pros.
There have been scores of Heisman busts, more than you can shake a finger at!
2006-09-19 18:38:07 · answer #1 · answered by TG Special 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Archie Griffin Bengals
2017-01-01 12:14:44 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Archie Griffin Nfl
2016-10-03 11:48:30 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The biggest reason he was a flop was he didn't have an offensive line with the Bengals as good as the one he ran behind at Ohio State. Very, very few RBs can excel without an excellent O-Line. People like Barry Sanders or Gale Sayers, maybe, but Archie Griffin, no way.
2006-09-20 01:47:10 · answer #4 · answered by perdidobums 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
What happened at the Olympics shouldn't count. Look at your OWN comments, they claim what was done OUTSIDE(after is the same as something like the Olympics) the NCAA doesn't count. So unless that was to say what Magic did shouldn't count unless you count this then you are wrong to bring that up. Anyway yeah it's that history is only what you saw issue. To me Griffen would be the top. I'm not sure where Owens would be, but still likely 3rd of those 3. He is known for what happened at the Olympics, not for anything he accomplished at college. I didn't say he didn't do anything in the NCAA. This is about ICONS though. When you hear Jesse Owens you think of the Berlin Olympics, NOT what he did in College. Also National Championships and World Records are totally different matters, so the 4 is better then 1 isn't a real comparison. One Championship stands forever, unless forced to be vacated, where as World Records fall. Don't worry though you can keep claiming your dream.
2016-03-17 23:07:29 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
He was only 5'8" and weighed 180 lbs., same with Anthony Davis from USC. Big Backs were in fashion in the NFL early 70's, OJ Simpson played at 225-230 lbs. The NFL game at that time was very physical. A lot of grabbing and holding by defenses. Tough to break thru as a smaller RB. Probably not until Tony Dorsett got in the league did the smaller backs start to infiltrate the league with greater success. Also rule changes to take the emphasis off of the defense and make the system more offense friendly.
2006-09-19 18:56:35 · answer #6 · answered by Mojo 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The list goes on and on with big-time college guys who can't cut it in the pros. Archie fit into a great system and had a pretty easy schedule then. But when a very young man leaves that cozy college inviroment and comes to the bigs, heres $,women,drugs,more than hes ever seen,and hes on his own. I only know that there are guys out on the street who are bigger,faster, stronger,smarter, etc...etc, than alot of the guys on the feild so why aren't they playing? At the pro level everybody has potential and they all got trophies at home from high school and college. The differance? D-e-s-i-r-e. Who wants it the most ?If you were some no-name L.B. trying out for the Bengals you are gonna try to kill Archie Griffen and make a name for yourself. You can clock a mans time in the 40 but you can't measure heart
2006-09-19 19:02:48 · answer #7 · answered by Mr.Obvious 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Of the 4 major attributes (heart, size, skill and speed) for a running back to succeed in the pros, Griffin only possessed one, heart.
2006-09-20 04:49:11 · answer #8 · answered by smitty 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
He was drafted by the Bengals. Granted they made the Super Bowl in 81, but they're not called the Bungles for nothing... How can anyone ever really know for sure. Some of the best College athletes never amount to anything in the NFL. Examples of Heisman Trophy winners that didn't make it in the NFL, Danny Wuerffel, Eric Crouch, Jason White. Now here's how the voting scored for these losers, pay attention to who is below them ...
1996-
1st Danny Wuerffel Florida Sr. QB
2nd Troy Davis Iowa State Jr. RB
3rd Jake Plummer Arizona State Sr. QB
4th Orlando Pace Ohio State Jr. OT
5th Warrick Dunn Florida State Sr. RB
6th Byron Hanspard Texas Tech Jr. RB
7th Darnell Autry Northwestern Jr. RB
8th Peyton Manning Tennessee Jr. QB
2001-
1st Eric Crouch Nebraska Sr. QB
2nd Rex Grossman Florida So. QB
3rd Ken Dorsey Miami (Fl.) Jr. QB
4th Joey Harrington Oregon Sr. QB
5th David Carr Fresno State Sr. QB
6th Antwaan Randle El Indiana Sr. QB
7th Roy Williams Oklahoma Jr. DB
8th Bryant McKinnie Miami (Fl.) Sr. OL
9th Dwight Freeney Syracuse Sr. DE
10th Julius Peppers North Carolina Jr. DE
2003-
1st Jason White Oklahoma Sr. QB
2nd Larry Fitzgerald Pittsburgh So. WR
3rd Eli Manning Mississippi Sr. QB
4th Chris Perry Michigan Sr. RB
5th Darren Sproles Kansas St. Sr. RB
6th Matt Leinart Southern California So. QB
7th Philip Rivers North Carolina State Sr. QB
8th Mike Williams Southern California Sr. WR
9th Ben Rothlisberger Miami (OH) Jr. QB
A Heisman Trophy does not mean great NFL player, it means a great PR plan with a healthy dose of "hype"
2006-09-19 18:52:00 · answer #9 · answered by WingNo19 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He wasn't used right his potential was wasted by a no talent team!! It's like telling Vick you can't run just pass and telling Bush just run up the middle all the time.
2006-09-20 00:47:25 · answer #10 · answered by damnit_dave78 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋