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I come from a strong line of Conservative relitives...I dont understand why you would take a potenital life?

2006-09-19 12:56:32 · 20 answers · asked by Legal Eagle 1 in Politics & Government Politics

What if the child that was just murdered was a president, or a doctor?

2006-09-19 13:07:51 · update #1

20 answers

thanks for the thumbs down whoever got me quick ;)

i'm going to try to explain this as best i can. if you have questions, please return and ask them and i will try to update.

i don't support abortion, i can't ban it. there's a difference. the reason i can't support banning abortion is because i don't think it can be done. before you come back with "well legalizing murder would cut down on the homicide rate!", consider some of the differences:

when you have a murder, you begin with a body. that launches an investigation into who committed it. when you ban abortion, what do part of the act do you criminalize? do you go after the provider or the seeker?

how does an investigation begin? how do you know who is pregnant so that you can tell who has gotten an abortion?

i will come back with a link to an article about el salvador (i think! i have to find it...). they criminalized abortion a few years ago. the way it works is, women seeking them find a dr or order medications to induce miscarriage over the internet.

if they get sick, the police are called. many of them do get infections because of the ease of overdose with the current medications. then, they go to jail. they are often infertile, the babies don't always die quickly... and some are born with horrible birth defects.

laws regulate. i don't wish to use them for things they cannot do. how do you keep abortions from happening? i don't think that can be done since it could not be done before. no country can do it, so they wind up prosecuting the women because that is the easiest person to catch. and i don't think that is fair, because they catch too few, and who knows how many were not caught but only maimed or made infertile?

here is the link i mentioned:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/09/magazine/09abortion.html?ex=1302235200&en=d855d80018cd6c56&ei=5088&partner=rssuserland

in answer to your detail... what if? there is no law for "what if". there is no way for the law to address "what if". that is my concern. if you only consider, "what if the baby would have been ...super jesus?"... then of course abortion should be banned. what if he'd been hitler? it goes both ways. my concern is that, when the mother is convinced she can't bear a child, for a multitude of reasons... all you would say is "maybe he'll be president"

why can't she choose to not be the president's mother? this is not mary and jesus. it would be a different story entirely if mary tried to kill herself because joseph left her because she wasn't a virgin. do you think all of these girls are going to get abortions after an angel has come and said "fear not! i bring you tidings of great joy!"... no. it is because they have no one. it is because they have no hope. and i would not take such women and fling the police at them to poke around in the remains of their lives.

the law should not be arbitrary. it should be something we use to improve our lives. life is as precious as we make it. i don't wish to artificially protect something so that we cease valuing it because the law makes it a burden. that is how marriage is discussed also. it is the choice that makes it beautiful.

2006-09-19 12:58:32 · answer #1 · answered by uncle osbert 4 · 3 1

Why don't conservatives get it? They talk about how much they hate "Big Government" but making a woman and a doctor a criminal for performing this procedure is about as "Big" as it gets.

I also find it amazing that these are the same conservatives who fight sex education in the schools and don't want condoms introduced in health class because they think it's promoting promiscuity.

Liberals don't "Suppport Abortion." That kind of spin comes straight from Fox news and the moral majority. Abortion is terrible, awful, and hideous. But any government reaching in and controlling women in this way is worse.

This is not an easy issue. Does a fetus enjoy protection under the constitution's right to life or doesn't it? It's a great question that pings and pongs back and forth depending on who controls congress.

I think that we're much better off without a law. In this way, I'm a conservative. Fewer laws are better. If you want to stop abortion, work with your church to create more support and education for your community, and the young women who are likely to get pregnant. Help them make the right choice- to not get pregnant.

2006-09-19 13:09:55 · answer #2 · answered by Jerry 3 · 3 1

First of all, you are wrong. There is no such thing as potential life. Either it's alive or it's not. It stops being alive when you kill it.

That said, I have liberal leanings and I think abortion is disgusting and should be banned after the 8th week gestation-- I'm sure if most people knew abortion procedure and fetal development, they would agree. But fact doesn't necessarily make law sadly.
And many conservative republicans seem more proabortion than you would think.

2006-09-19 13:13:12 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What a women does with her own body is her right as a human being. I don't believe that conception manifests a living, human soul. I believe this happens at birth. Is a test tube fetus a human soul?

Some women have, for centuries, been put in non-consenting situations whereas, they become pregnant. Besides being violated, raising a child becomes a certainty.

Adoption or carrying a child may not be the course a woman wants to take. She has that right of choice and should always.

2006-09-19 13:10:11 · answer #4 · answered by Paige2 3 · 2 1

I am a Democrat and I do not fully support abortion. I believe it should still be legal in certain situations but have regulations on it.
In the example of a woman being raped and or is the victim of incest it should be her choice as to abort the pregnancy or not, also if the pregnancy is detramental to the girls health. If the girl is under the age of 18 it should be her choice but only with the consent of the parents or guardians. There should be a ddatabase with the names of every girl who has had one so that they cannot use it as a form of birth control.

2006-09-19 20:17:47 · answer #5 · answered by trl_666 4 · 0 1

I'm not a liberal, but I don't' support abortion. I think it's wrong in almost every situation, and should only be an absolute last resort.

But more than that, I don't think that anyone else should be limited by my viewpoint. I can't tell someone else what to do with their body, and you can't tell someone else what to do with their body.

So, whether I approve the procedure or not, I have no right to tell someone else what they can do with their own body.

The concept of reproductive freedoms is not whether you agree with the individual choices being made. It's whether you think the government should have the right to take away and mandate those choices.

Why can't people understand that freedom of choice is not a minority value, even if the majority happens to disagree with the minority's choice?

2006-09-19 12:59:54 · answer #6 · answered by coragryph 7 · 3 2

The Christian Right has its origins in the New Right of the 1980s, which did not even pretend it was religiously motivated. The agenda of the New Right should dispel any myth that it believed in the sanctity of human life. Its agenda included support for the death penalty, support for nuclear weapons and massive cuts in social spending for the poor.

2006-09-19 13:03:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

you are a conservative, that's why you hear only what you want to hear, and see what you want to see, and can't understand logic even if it hit you in the head. I'll repeat for you once again: the liberals do not support abortion, repeat : the liberals do not support abortion, they support the right to choose repeat: they support the right to choose... you should have the right to choose what to do with your damn body, have the baby or not, right to choose

2006-09-19 13:16:41 · answer #8 · answered by class4 5 · 2 0

Because it's just potential. If removing a "potential" life is wrong, then in theory we should be having non-stop sex with everyone we see because every time we don't we're removing the chance for a "potential" life to exist.

Sometimes you have to invest in life as it is right now, meaning making decisions that benefit the people who are already here.

2006-09-19 13:01:08 · answer #9 · answered by Paul J 3 · 2 1

I'M AN AMERICAN NO PARTY AFFILIATION NO POLITICAL LABEL. WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO TELL YOU HOW TO LIVE AND WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR BODY MIND AND SOUL? WHAT PEOPLE DO IS BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR MAKER. NO HUMAN HAS THE AUTHORITY TO JUDGE OTHERS. IF A WOMEN DECIDES TO ABORT A FETUS THEN SHE HAS TO LIVE WITH THAT THE REST OF HER LIFE SHE DOESN'T NEED PEOPLE BADGERING HER FOR HER PERSONAL DECISION.

2006-09-19 13:01:30 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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