does God exist?

Question

AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.



An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new students to stand and .....


Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.




Prof: Is God good?

Student: Sure.



Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.




Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)





Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?

Student: Yes.




Prof: Is Satan good?

Student: No.




Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From...God...




Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student: Yes.




Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.




Prof: So who created evil?

Student does not answer.




Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.





Prof: So, who created them?

Student has no answer.




Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.




Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No, sir.




Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.




Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.




Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.




Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat ?

Prof: Yes.




Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.




Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)




Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold.

Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.



(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)




Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?




Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light.... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?




Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?




Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.



Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.



Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.





Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)




Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)




Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)




Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.



With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)



Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.




Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.

That is all that keeps things moving & alive.






WANT TO KNOW WHO THAT STUDENT WAS ?

Answer 1

Please read my words carefully:
If you see footmark in the sand, you'll say that someone passed from here...
If you see a piece of dog sh*t on the ground, you'll say that a dog passed from here...
So what about the enormous universe, the sky, stars, planets, earth and all the beauty in it, doesn't it lead to that someone made it?!!!

Some people say that everything is created by itself after the big-bang... I won't ask you about what caused the big-bang, but I'll ask you a simple question:
If you take all the letters of the alphabet, multiples of them, and you threw them randomly on the floor. Do you expect (by a chance of one in infinity) to get a poem like shakespear's??!!

Can't you see how organized our universe is, the planets, the eco-system on earth, look even in your own body... Can you control your heart-beat? Can you control your breath while you're sleeping? Who stopped your eye-lashes from growing after reaching a certain length? Who told the baby turtles to move towards the sea and not to the earth after they come out of their eggs? Who taught the bird how to make nests?

My friend, think with your heart and brain. If you're still lost, think about the following:

Do you know how to play safe?
Your point:
If there's no God and you do all what you want in life, then nothing will happen to you after life. But if there was God and you were mistaken, then you'll blame yourself FOREVER...

Believer's point:
If there's God and I followed His commands in life, then I'll be in Heaven after life FOREVER. But if there was no God and we're mistaken, then nothing bad will happen to us after life...

Now you know how to play-safe, in case you're not convinced?

Answer 2

This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and suffering that I have seen. It's an explanation other people will understand.


A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and various subjects.

When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.

"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all of these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and un-kept.

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me."

"Exactly!"- affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist!
What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him.
That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

Answer 3

I have no idea who the student was... (you maybe?) But... The teacher has no business teaching you something without proof unless it is represented as his own opinion.

Atheists use tactics just as bad as the Christians in getting someone to focus on their choice of rational.

My answer to Him would have been that God is good and benevolent but you know, He also instructed us to use our wisdom. Did the man who died smoke? Did he mistreat his body? God said cause and effect, God does not sit up there and create diseases. He created a world vast and filled to the brim with choices, causes and effects and situations to grow us and teach us that life... IS FLEETING! Life is fragile at best. We are to "Store up our treasures in Heaven." Not here on earth... Where is heaven you might ask? Well the bible answers this question too. "Heaven, is within."

Christ was the word of God incarnate... Christ was wisdom and life is more than just living it and then dying. WE are more than flesh and blood and what happes to us happens as a direct result of our lives and how we live them. God is mercifull, but He is also Just. He cannot break His own laws to save any one life.

The good part about it is. If he prayed, and was a believer and died anyway. At least he understood that we are alive after the intellect leaves the restrictions of the body and we change intellect and come to understand what we are essentially, a vital piece of the intelligence that created and held life together and animated the physical for a time. We are so much more than just Flesh and Cancer cannot effect alter of hinder the process of what we are essentially... An energy force of intelligence that is self actuated and self contained... Just like God. For a time, in a physicality but eternally... The body is not needed and what effects it. Never effects its intelligence because it cannot now and will never make a difference. We all die physically. It s just a matter of what takes us that is the difference. That usually has nothing more to do with genetics and choice.

An atheist should know better... God is not responsable or at fault.

Answer 4

I don't have time to read such a long question, if that is what it is. Gods exist only in the imaginations of gullible people, for there is no logical or scientific evidence to support such beliefs, but there is much evidence against them. Do Brahma, Yu Ti, Allah, Amon, Ra, Marduk, Asshur, Zeus, Jove, Odin or other gods exist? Your reasoning applies to them as much as to Yahweh the god of Moses. If you say your god is real, but others are made by men. a logical man can say yours is no more real than the others, and that yours and the others were all made by men. Moses believed that many gods existed, but he chose to worship Yahweh (mistransalated as Jehovah) above the others, as his first commandment says. You had best think about the many gods. Maybe, some are much more powerful than Moses' god and will punish you for not worshipping them. I think Zeus or Odin can beat Moses' god in a fight. Odin has a spear that always hits its mark, and Zeus has thunderbolts. Yahweh only bores and depresses people. Your illogic applies to any god.

Answer 5

There are many Philosophical "Proofs" for the existence of a Prime Mover. Some call that God. For me, pure reason dictates that a God Exists. I am incapable of believing that a big bang started everything from a NON-BIG-BANGER. It is illogical to believe in a nothing that greated everything. In other works their had to be a prime mover somewhere whom I call God.

Answer 6

Abdul Kalam Azad,the President of India.

Answer 7

you could have left out some of the spacing....whew!!!!!!

but, after checking about 18 websites and various blogs and 360 pages, only one says there was such a conversation....
and the student was.........


Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, the present President of India.

Answer 8

that is a good quote, it sounds like a mass email kinda thing that i have read before, but it is good, and really true, even scientists use faith to believe in their ideas, they just dont believe it! WE all have to have faith in something, its where we choose to put it that is important, i choose to put mine in God and Jesus, not the ideas of man that are all based on hypothesis

Answer 9

"God" or "Jesus" or "Mohammed" or "E=Meter" or any other kind of religion is very subjective. There is no point in trying to convince any one else of a religious thought. Religion is by nature not interested in facts, it is interested in faith. Therefore, the entire concept of discussing religion is moot. That is why there is no answer to your question. ;-)

Answer 10

Yes.