What do you think of the government? Do you think they should resign?
(Please only answer if you are familar with Hungary and it's politics)
2006-09-19 00:35:19 · 8 answers · asked by Baaad Dokhtar 3 in Travel ➔ Europe (Continental) ➔ Other - Europe
i think i do have something to say to this topic coz i am Hungarian and i live in Budapest.
I think that no matter what the government did (lied, decieved the ppo) these riots are just plainly stupid. it does not do anything good for the country, it does scare foreing investors (they are least likely to invest into a country where there is an instable political background) and bad for the people. Not to mention that the political campaign seemed to be a bid to me, the big parties tried to overbid each others... so parially the opposition had a part in generating these lies too... like when they said that if the Socialits win then the gas prices will go up, they forgot to mention that all gas is bought from abroad and in the recent years the market price of gas dubbled so the rase in gas prices (paid by citisens per gas consumed) WILL have to take place othervise the government has to pay it from loans and increase the budget deficit., which will make it even harder to enter into the Euro zone and if we don't meet the Maastricht criterias then we will not get the funds.
i think that the current situation is caused by the statement of the Prime Minister AND the fact that the leader of the biggest oposition party did incourage people to "act against" the current regulation... he did not use the words riot, distruction and so on, still you could hear that into his speach if you red between the lines. i thik that the extremist right wing groups are harvesting this opportunity and they are causing all the caos.
the opposition could not handle that they lost the elections in 6 years ago, then they where saying that there was a fraud and that the votes shall be recounted... it was recounted, they still lost. they shall learn to face that they lost, but they can't...
moreover, I saw the footages on tv (live, all the way) and only about 100 people where actually doing the violent stuff, the others where just there. It was clearly visible that most people where just there to see the action (catastophy tourism, they where shooting pics and all), it was also funny (well, this may seem like a not proper word in this context, so rather strange) to see that in one point they prevented the firemen from doing their job, they took their hose (hope i spelled it well) away, yet in the end they actually helped them...
all in all i was scared and i hear that groups of ppl are gathering again, even my collegues are wishing to go out and see "history in the making"... bullcrap, i am scared... get me outa here:((
2006-09-19 02:40:59 · answer #1 · answered by VeronicaB 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Okay, well my description won't be as good as the others but in a quick answer...
The Prime Minsiter has lied for about 18-24 months, but not only that his entire party has been lying and now the people of Hungary are very angry and want him to resign. At first it was a peaceful protest, but after they were refused to enter the MTV building the riots got violent, over 100 police officers got injured then. So basically the Prime Minister doesn't want to resign and that is making them even more angry.
I personally think that moron should resign, he doesn't deserve to be Prime Minister. If he doesn't resign I don't think he will be very safe there.
2006-09-20 15:56:40 · answer #2 · answered by TheFireWithin 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Politics = Corruption
Hungary is just another long line of democracies that is having an issue when it comes to fraud / corruption.
In the case of Hungary, lying to the people about the state of the economy, in order to secure their power is simply put "fraud". Now, elected into power, the officials involved in this "lie" are standing behind the wall of "constitutional law"... after all, they were re-elected. Many people would say that he should step down, but in the long run, this riot will be stopped, and people will go on with their lives. Perhaps after a few months, and some serious arm twisting, the president might force a few of the cabinets to resign with their golden pensions.
It is a sad state of affairs that we live in, when public officials lie, cheat, distort, and commit crimes without any punishment. In the USA, we have a lot of people in the White House that have done some pretty big "distortions", "lies", and "crimes" ... and yet noone is asking for resignations.
Maybe we will learn one day that "politicians need to changed often like napkins, and for the same reason" they get dirty with or without help.
2006-09-19 07:55:01 · answer #3 · answered by mininovax 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
People act like the Hungarian Prime Minister is the only leader who ever lied...
In a few words: There was a tape - recorded in may but somehow it appeared now - on which the PM said to his party: We lied to the whole country (not telling the truth about how bad the situation of the economy was, and not doing everything they'd promised just to get ppl vote for them), we did nothing in the past few years (nothing effective that could've helped us), so come on, we really have to do something to save the country. He said something like that, it just took him longer and he used some inappropriate words. But the media forgot to post the whole thing, they just said: HE ADMITTED TO HAVE LIED. And I can see now that there are too many stupid people here who just ran to the streets, put cars on fire, broke windows, broke into buildings, hurt other people. And hundreds more who stood there watching, agreeing. I don't get these people. First of all, whoever believes everything during election time is way too naive, and they act like the opposite party (who -again - didn"t get to win the elections) had made every promise come true. No, politics is never like that. But some people just don't understand, and some even find this situation "cool" so they go and vandalize the streets and buildings. And they don't get that this will not help the country at all. Just more money to spend. The current PM with his party is not perfect, but maybe better than any other options right now. People are angry because this government made some serious decisions to save money (resulting in ppl getting less), but someone had to make this step to save the country. It's hard to accept, but without it, everything would get more and more worse.
2006-09-21 18:23:04 · answer #4 · answered by ntsy2bm 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm Hungarian and I'm astonished at these events, people are acting like they were surprised that Gyurcsány lied when in fact everyone in the world knows that all politicians lie (like in the joke "How do you know a politician is lying? His lips are moving.")
I never liked Gyurcsány and his party and usually been voting for Fidesz (the only real alternative since all other parties are too small and don't have a base large enough to win any election), but Fidesz is now too nationalistic and far-right for my taste, so it's bad if the government resigns and it's bad if it doesn't. Most people I know already have give up on poltics and don't give a damn about it.
2006-09-24 12:11:05 · answer #5 · answered by Annie 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Not famiiar, but I heard a translation into english and it sounded to me just like any manager in a commercial company who's having a bad day and decides to do a lot of shouting - basically trying to kick their butts for failing.
The issues (according to BBC radio news, so it's a foreign slant on the issue) the rioters objected to:
excessive use of foul language (but this was a private meeting - he obviously knows that in public, you may cause offence, but if offending your "staff" by swearing at them, this could make them think "oops - he's REALLY annoyed".
But more importantly, he is quoted as saying that the goverment had done nothing in four years and had lied to the public/electorate.
I could, if i wanted to, interpret what he trying to as "we made promises four years ago and haven't delivered - that makes it *tantamount* to lying. Maybe they tried real hard.
listen to the (illegally obtained) recording, and make your own decision. The only thing I think they did wrong was allowing a security breech, by being recorded clandestinely.
AND all people of Hungary - If you think your government has let you down, you don't really think its any better over here in the UK do you? - our lot just have more press-liason people.
2006-09-19 07:59:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
My partner is Hungarian.
2 weeks ago he got of the phone with his mother in Hungary, shook his head and said to me: "It's not long now. Things are so bad for the working class back home, and people are so poor, it's not long now before they take to the streets to protests against the government."
Last night when he came home form work, and we watched the news, and saw what was happening he said "These people have been pushed to far, most of them are hungry and angry, this was expected."
I'm from South Africa, a country with it's own share of troubles, and from talking to my partner I feel that this was going to happen sometime anyways, the leaked recording just sparked it off earlier than expected.
2006-09-20 06:29:50 · answer #7 · answered by Anria A 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
the socialist are now destroyed, in my opinion, because of the prime-minister's declarations, but Fides, the nationalist coalition is not an option. they would get hungary backwards, like it was 10 years ago.
2006-09-19 16:35:37 · answer #8 · answered by ♫Pavic♫ 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋