I'm trying to fing a speech by Socrates (Greek spelling Sokrates) in which he says that he despairs of the youth because they are lazy, disrespect their elders and parents, pay no attention to their studies and mock traditional religious beliefs.
Does anyone know where I can find this passage? It was in a Plato writing I think!
2006-09-18 09:57:30 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities ➔ Books & Authors
it might be in plato's The Republic. its been a while since ive read it
2006-09-18 10:00:52 · answer #1 · answered by vick 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think perhaps you are referring to Socrates' conversation with Adeimantus in the Republic. Someone borrowed my big Plato book, and I can't corroborate the quote, but according to the net, the quote comes from Book four of the Republic.
It says"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
I wish I could verify that this is correct but it sounds like it should be close.
2006-09-18 12:11:11 · answer #2 · answered by Bentley 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Plato's Republic Book 4?
2006-09-18 10:38:33 · answer #3 · answered by Gone 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Is this the quote?
"Our youth now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love to chatter in places of exercise. Children are tyrants, not the servants of the household. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers."
It is Socrates but i am not sure where from. I'm not sure it is from the Republic but as i havent read it for a while and it doesnt have an index of key subjects then i am afraid i do not know for sure!
2006-09-18 10:39:39 · answer #4 · answered by e_lz_a_bth 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Almost everything (if not everything) ever written by Socrates was indeed actually written down and or quoted by Plato a favored student of Socrates. Both of them prefered the actual act of speaking, debating, sophistry to the written word. They felt that the written word could not speak for or stand up for itself as well as debate or conversation.
I too think it might have been the republic either that or the Sophist...? Don't remember though. If I remember to before I go to bed, I'll go hunt down a book and look for you.
2006-09-18 18:36:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Socrates' gripes sound about the same as those I read on a recent post. I guess these gripes about the youth are really ancient.
It seems ironic that it wasn't the youth who sentenced him to death.
2006-09-18 10:20:47 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
try going to the gutenberg project it has out of print books you should be able to get platos rebublic and other works FREE from there as they are no longer covered by copyright ok they are E books but it will have the text
2006-09-25 19:31:34 · answer #7 · answered by mini the prophet of fubar 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. That is a self-serving concoction and mistranslation of several speeches that may or may not be justly tagged to Socrates. It's really too bad that he didn't write anything down himself and that we only have the foggy memories of his homosexual students to point to his even having been alive.
2006-09-18 11:43:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋