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They ask me where i am. I am in the doorway. So no, i am not in room A, i am not in room B, i am in the flippin doorway! Some people have trouble with the concept that to me i could never be in either room whilst i am really standing in the doorway. At worst they tell me it's a mental condition. I'll give them mental! What about you? Do you ever stand in the doorway and the world wants you to believe that you are standing in one of the rooms?

2006-09-17 16:27:41 · 23 answers · asked by Part Time Cynic 7 in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

:-) Lift doors used to be part of my working life. To this day i still stick my foot in the doorway if it looks as if they will close and i want it open. People look weird at me but then some come to appreciate the fact that it helped them to catch the lift. A lot just don't get it :-(

2006-09-17 19:14:25 · update #1

jperk: That would make a fly with no wings. And i would wonder how it would affect his lifespan. Nothing fuzzy there.

2006-09-17 19:17:56 · update #2

swot: It's a state of being, i had a weird life and had to implement psychological survival mechanisms at a very early age. I'ts warped my thinking and my logic but it annoys me when even the psychiatrist tells me i'm too smart for my own good! So it's not the same thing. I can not remember different.

2006-09-17 19:21:25 · update #3

Susan: Type 4: a person stands in the doorway as the answer their mobile. The question is asked where they are. The answer is 'in the doorway'. Ask a question, get an answer. No cotton wool in my personality type.

2006-09-17 22:08:08 · update #4

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This is good logic. Do you know how a missle knows where it is?

A missle knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. And by subtracting were it was from where it wasn't it now knows where it is.

Just like you knowing you are in the doorway and not in the room you were just in, or the room you are about to be in.

2006-09-17 16:32:53 · answer #1 · answered by immortalnorsegoddess 2 · 3 0

Oh yeah, most of my life I have resisted being what the 'world' expects me to be - although I have to confess to being greatly influenced by these expectations and the consequences of my own resistance - such is life, but in my mind I am as free as I possibly can be. Having said that I have lived long enough to know that it is a mistake to live only in the mind.

So, to answer your question more directly, no, I see no fussiness in your position, rather crystal clarity. Logic on the other hand, while frequently very useful as a tool of thought, is also limited (a perfectly logical formulation may be simply wrong - much like a doctor declaring that the operation was a success but the patient died). Merde in, merde out.

But, for what it's worth, I think it is perfectly logical to be between two positions. Even if you are not stationary in a doorway between two rooms but are in motion passing from one to the other there is moment when you are precisely between them.

2006-09-23 04:48:41 · answer #2 · answered by jayelthefirst 3 · 2 0

Yes, it is fuzzy logic. While "fuzzy logic" is a term typically used in electronics and such, the term could indeed be applied to personality types. IMHO

Type I: This person cannot make a decision because he cannot "get out of the doorway." He cannot convince himself one choice is better than another.

Type II: This person cannot form an opinion. There such a thing as being able "to see both sides of a story" but this person cannot come to a conclusion.

Type III: Eating disorders: This person either overeats because he cannot decide between the steak and the chicken so he eats both.... OR undereats; he cannot decide between the steak and the chicken so he eats neither

Anyway... those are just my thoughts about your situation. I've never really given "fuzzy logic" any consideration.

2006-09-17 19:58:55 · answer #3 · answered by Yinzer from Sixburgh 7 · 1 1

You are either in the doorway of Room A or B or in the corridor to both.

You cant simply be in the doorway ( unless no where near A or B at all)

So its flawed logic not fuzzy

2006-09-18 00:03:13 · answer #4 · answered by commentator 2 · 0 2

Have you ever tried exiting the elevator and the doors close on you?

That's standing in the door way -- neither completely in nor completely out. But the doors closed on you because there is no fuzzy logic sensor controlling it. (Good thing it waits for the doors to be completely closed before moving.)

Now do you see how it could be useful in the real world? Like cellphones or air traffic control?

I know that isn't the best example they used in Wikipedia, but it is simple enough to be understood by most people -- never mind what I just said...

2006-09-17 19:05:03 · answer #5 · answered by : ) 6 · 0 1

I think it's because most people can only fathom ideas when they can relate to them, or they are able to group them into categories. That's why it is easier for them to believe that you are standing in the room of the doorway, and that the doorway cannot possibly be independent of the room itself.

2006-09-18 07:53:28 · answer #6 · answered by Big Bear 7 · 1 1

>>Do you ever stand in the doorway and the world wants you to believe that you are standing in one of the rooms?

You are standing in one of the rooms...and the other as well. Standing in one room doesn't mean you can't stand in more than one.

Visit the four state corner.

2006-09-17 18:28:21 · answer #7 · answered by flignar 2 · 2 0

it sounds like fuzzy logic. classical logic is very bad at situations like this. people are used to their binary either/or logic. you're either in the room or not in the room. but this type of thinking isn't very reflective of how things really are. i think that situations like this happen all the time. i'm sitting in a chair or i'm not according to classical logic. in reality i'm about 1/4 out of the chair. maybe if we had more fuzzy logic (and less binary, either/or thinking) the world would be a better place. a warmer, friendlier, fuzzier place.

2006-09-17 19:23:17 · answer #8 · answered by student_of_life 6 · 2 0

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2016-12-18 12:10:40 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

It's a bit like people asking you where you stand over certain issues, I am usually sitting on the fence until I decide, stay in the doorway until you know where you want to be, only fools rush in!!!!!!!

2006-09-17 16:35:28 · answer #10 · answered by pottydotty 4 · 2 1

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