Please Help, this a a serious question about Homosexuality!?

Question

Hey everyone. Ok, I'm 14 yrs old and a freshmen in high school. This question has two parts to it.
I'm trying to "find myself". BTW I'm NOT gay. I just feel confused half of me thinks homosexuality is wrong, my religion tells me its wrong and its a sin, half of me feels that two guys being involved both sexually and emotionally is wrong. But the other half of me tells me that being gay is not a choice, some people are born straight while others are born gay its really not their faults. I'm soo confused!!! Are gay people really immoral or are they just being true to themselves???
Here's the second part to my question:
I'm thinking of starting a GSA club at my high school. I go to Garland High School in Texas but I'm afraid people might think I'm a lesbian. What got me thinking of starting this club was I was at my Journalism class and my teacher was telling us about how some people were trying to start one a few years back but it didn't work out and this guy who sits across from

Sry I ran out of characters. Anyway this guy who sits across from me was like "Duh, cuz they're fags." I got mad when he said this because insulting others is totally uncalled for. Then I thought this is what gay people go through everyday being called names and stuff. Wouldn't it be easier for them if they had people to talk to that were on their side. And I'm also afraid of what my parents might think if I start this club.
Please guys, this is serious if you just here to insult others don't answer!
I really need help on this, feel free to e-mail me!

Answer 1

Morally I know Homosexually is wrong, however I will not condem a person for being gay. Just as long as they respect me for being straight.

Judge not and you will not be judged.

Answer 2

I'll just tackle the religion part. These religions that say homosexuality is wrong...I know of at least two...are less than eyeblinks on the grand timeline. Many of the notions in those religions are very recent, very theoretical notions that cannot be proved or disproved by any rational means. People can be very fervent and certain in their acceptance of beliefs that are wrong, including religious beliefs. Religion has a lot more to do with emotions than it has to do with either logic or objective reality.

About immorality, gay people aren't immoral because they're gay, and straight people aren't moral because they're straight. Immoral people are immoral because they steal, cheat, and deceive, and because they use and endanger and disrespect other people. Some immoral people are gay. Some immoral people are straight. Immorality has to do with personal ethics and conduct, not sexuality. Sexuality and personal morality are two different departments, though they do intersect: a moral person is fair and truthful and respectful with a sex partner or lover and demonstrates concern about that lover or sex partner's welfare. The opposite applies to an immoral person, and an immoral person makes a dangerous sex partner or lover.

(I am going a little further than I meant to here.) I think you might be better off in high school if you don't start a GSA club. High school, unless it's in some very progressive part of the world, is no place to show one's interest in a topic that many young people find troubling. It might bring you some unpleasant and dangerous attention. The thing to do in high school is make decent grades and get out of it as soon as possible. Best of luck in your journey.

Answer 3

I don't know what a GSA club is, but if you aren't gay and you start a club associated with it, it might be in your best interest to find a boy friend BEFORE starting it, so that everyone can see that you are straight and not a lesbian. I don't think that gay people really have a choice in the matter, so I do believe that they are born gay. But you have to remember that when the bible was written, the Roman empire was still alive and thriving and they didn't have very good morals at all. There civilization revolved around their sexuality and men and women didn't see anything objectionable about being gay, lesbian, or Bi, so almost all were. They even had sex with children and it wasn't considered wrong really. So I think all the stuff in the bible about it was written about the Romans. If you want to start a club associated with gays, go for it, but label yourself straight so that others know. It will save you problems in the long run. Good luck with all. I remember being your age, it wasn't long ago. So I understand your confusion in the matter.

Answer 4

For the first part: any person's religious views are utterly up to them. I'm 20, so I'm hoping I don't sound ancient and condescending when I tell you that everyone goes through a spiritual questioning. Most people come out the other end feeling very strongly in SOMETHING. There are people (here, and on the internet, or at the local library) who can talk about what your specific scripture says, and how it might fit in context. I was raised Christian, so I'm only familiar with the BIble, but there's a LOT of other things that the Bible would have called sins that just aren't any more; either because of the reason that they were made sins in the first place, or because we've come to understand the circumstances better. It'll ultimately come down to you're critical thinking, and prayer.

As for the second part: it's nice to see that regardless of religious beliefs, you do still have a sense of basic justice and compassion. That having been said...I, and I'm sure others, tend to get frustrated when straight people "want to get involved" but are terrified of what other people will think of them etc. It's kind of like you can honestly tell people "no, I'm not a lesbian". Yes, you MIGHT have to face a portion of the nonsense that the other gay people in your school have to face every day of their lives, but if you're trying to talk to the people who spout this stuff at you, you can face them, get them off your back perhaps, without denying a major portion of your true self. I don't like to discourage anyone who has the aforementioned compassion and sense of justice, as well as the initiative to take some course of action, but I think it ultimately comes down to first truly internalizing that someone calling you a lesbian isn't a "Bad" thing. Inaccurate perhaps, but you cannot work with GLBT people while at the same time thinking inside "Whew! Glad I'm not one of them!". Second, you will have to be prepared to face some consequences. In highschool, the most obvious impact is probably social; you will probably (like many GLBT young people) end up finding out just who your real friends are. Anything beyond that depends on more specific circumstances. As for your parents: if the basic rights of these other human beings is something you feel passionate about, my hope would be that even if they couldn't get behind the cause in its entirety, they'd at least encourage you to stand up for things you believe in. I don't know your parents, though, so I can't really predict consequences, or offer advice.

So, sounds like you've got some things to think about. Good luck in reaching some decisions.

Answer 5

Homosexuality is not wrong and is not a sin......in my personal belief. But, nothing is proven in this world. Not all religions are right and one's personal beliefs can't be proven true. There is no evidence that people are born gay, its all a matter of personal belief--much like belief in god. As you grow up and gain more life expierence you will be able to make that distinction, nobody can tell you what to believe or not. As for people thinking you are a lesbian...if you believe strongly in something and really believe that you could open people's minds then try and start on-if you are worried about what people will think of you then don't. Try to practice tolerance--and nicely educate the close-minded. That's a little less drastic

Answer 6

Look the view on homosexuality is really up to you. Everyone seems to have an opinion in this world and you will have to figure out yours. I am a religious person but I have gay friends and I respect them just as much as I respect everyone else. I don't think it is wrong. I think a lot of people don't care either but they want the PDA kept to a minimum. That goes for everyone though not just Gay's. I think that it is a great idea to start a club at your school but be care full..there maybe repercussions to that. Not only from your school classmates but from the school board and the community. Not everyone is open to these kinds of things. So good luck in your journey and I hope you can decide what you believe and agree with.

Answer 7

First off, you are a intelligent, mature and considerate person for your age.

I am 17 years old and bisexual. I truly do believe that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are born that way and I don't believe that we will be punished by God for being who we are. He made us who we are, so why would he punish us for it? In a postion like this, you have to go with what's in your heart. Your religion says that homosexuality is wrong, but that doesn't mean that homosexuals shouldn't be treated as poeple, right? It's ok for you to stand up for homosexuality. That wouldn't be going against your religion.
I think that you mean well by trying to start a club like that. As far as people thinking that you are a lesbian, you can't always let what other people do or say stop you from taking on a good task. I'm sure people who KNOW you already know that you're not gay.
If you are serious about starting the club, tell your mom and dad that you need to have a discussion with them. Then tell them how you are tired of homosexuals not being treated fairly and that you hope to promote fairness by starting this club. Tell them you are not going against God, but you are actually promoting fairness in mankind....because in truth, you are.

I hope I helped

Answer 8

Hello there,

Thank you for the question and for your willingness to think deeply about issues.

I am taking you at your word and treating you seriously. I will answer your question in two parts. The first part will deal with the issues or nature or nurture, the second part will deal with religion. Please read the first part no matter what -- but think before you read the second part -- it may well challenge what you have been told, and you may or may not be ready to have that challenged. Please only read it if you are sure you want to.

1. Yes I do believe its inborn. The evidence becomes more overwhelming every year.

Two things in particular I'm going to point to. A number of major studies have been done of animals. All the species studied had homosexual behavior -- and all the species that had pair bonds at all had homosexual pair bonding TO THE EXCLUSION OF MATING WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX IN HEAT. Explain how that is even possible as a choice for animals? (the best book in this particular field is probably Dr. Bruce Bagemihl's book "Biological Exuberance" from St. Martin's Press -- from its bibliography you can find many others, and you can easily find other studies that look at the same phenomena.)

2nd -- the Fruit-fly study. The results for fruit-flies can't be denied (link among those given below). People are trying to say that just because it applies to fruit-flies it doesn't have to to people. Alright, while I accept that the genetic mechanism is much more complex among humans -- why on earth would something like homosexuality be completely genetic in simple species and not genetic at all in the most complex species? It makes no sense, particularly given that no gay person I know EVER remembers being attracted to a female. Bisexuals are attracted to both. Gays are only attracted to same sex. So -- how is that a choice? Isn't it just the opposite of what straight people feel? An inborn automatic response. Period.

STOP HERE UNLESS YOU WANT TO READ MY ANSWER TO 2.
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2. While we have none of the autographs of the Bible, the early manuscripts we do have have and that are known to be genuine, by the most conservative estimates, have 200,000 differences between the wording in them, and while many are not meaningful, some completely change the doctrine of the church. (Ehrman, Bart, Ph.D.; Misquoting Jesus: The story behind who changed the Bible and Why; Harper Collins, 2006 -- p. 89). less conservative estimates range up to about 400,000 -- and there are programmers now endeavoring to write a program that will be able to count the exact number of variances.

And that's only the start of the difficulties for the Bible. If you only use the Textus Receptus (Received Text) as it is printed in the Bible (I use the King James Version for my quotes, as it is the most authentic to the consensus interpretations) then you are looking at enormous problems anyway -- in fact insurmountable ones. The World does not have corners (Isaiah 11:12), nor does it sit on pillars (I Samuel 2:8), nor water (Psalms 24:1-2). God did not establish a solid dome over the earth (that's what firmament literally means) and he does not have a palace on top of it from which angels can come and go up Jacob's ladder -- which might be reached by the tower of babel -- and where he keeps "treasuries" of hail and snow (Job 38: 22-23). For the sake of all that is decent, you can't even harmonize the 1st and 2nd chapters of Genesis with each other, say nothing of being able to defend the Biblical creation as scientifically factual. That's no surprise though, as the Bible tells us that beetles have four legs (Leviticus 11: 21-23) and that rabbits chew their cuds (Deuteronomy 14:7). It says that pi is 3, not 3.14 (I Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2) and that the mustard seed is the smallest seed in the world and grows into a tree [neither of which are true] (Matthew 13: 31-32). It is hardly a font of rational thought or scientific accuracy. Furthermore these errors only scratch the surface. Try harmonizing accounts in Joshua and the telling of the same tales in timeline in Judges sometime. If you can you are more proficient than any theologian I've ever met, and I've met a few.

Late bronze age men created the OT and early iron age ones the NT. It is not surprising therefore that God cannot lead Israel to defeat Iron chariots after promising he would (Judges 1:19), and it is not surprising that the flight of Israel from the god Chemosh, after the king of a city the Jews were beseiging and that God had promised them they would overthrow offered his own son to Chemosh as a human sacrifice -- further it is not surprising that no punishment is mentioned -- the Israelites were still sacrificing their own children, as is evidenced in several places, but most graphically in Judges 11:30-39

The long and short of it is, the Bible is a mythic book, written by bronze and iron age men who were recording primarily oral legends in written form. In any realistic sense it is drivel. You can see, just in the passages I noted above from 2 Kings -- the last vestiges of polytheism fading away.

Read the verses, read the context -- to all the things I've suggested, calm your breathing and thinking and ask yourself if this is really the God of the Universe you are reading about -- or a tribal deity, which has now evolved into the one we worship. I think you will find biblegod sadly lacking -- something the liturgical churches have been saying for hundreds of years. If you find yourself unwilling to even look -- ask yourself why? Are you willing to sacrifice the truth, in order to maintain a comfortable myth for yourself?

And if you want a chuckle, read the second, and theoretically final version of the ten commandments. They are in Exodus 34: 10-26. That is the covenant Yahweh actually made with Israel, not the one commonly quoted in the churches, which was on the broken tablets. Fortunately, no seething here.

Now let me note that Christianity is faith in Christ, not a book of which we have not a single complete copy prior to the 400s (2 from the 400s, the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus that contain at least significant numbers of the books). Christianity existed for hundreds of years before the canon was even finally established in the 390s.

Faith in Christ that is creedal however, has no prohibilitions, and a simple commandment -- love one another.

I hope it helps. Have a nice day.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
Albany Justice Service: http://www.rebuff.org/justice/
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Answer 9

Starting a club could give you experience in leadership. Could be good just for the experience value.

They will probably assume you're lesbian. You will have to accept it or get a boyfriend and have him on your arm 24x7.

For morality. No. I don't think they're immoral. Just because something might be very unappealing to others doesn't mean it's immoral. Some people think video games are immoral, but are they? No.

"Wouldn't it be easier for them if they had people to talk to that were on their side."

Yes.

"And I'm also afraid of what my parents might think if I start this club."

They might think you're lesbian. I would tell them you have gay friends, that you want to give them a forum to join, and that you're not gay, and that's not the reason you're doing it.

Answer 10

I Think It would be awesome of you to start the club... you could learn alot... However I don't think that it would work well in high school because alot of people are still in the closet or just plain unsure of themselves. Most kids would be afraid of all the ridicule, and getting the school to approve it will be a Bit**. In Belton TX there was a christian club, but the school wouldn't let us start an alternate religion club, we even had a teacher to sponsor us and a signed petition with 500 (real) names.

Answer 11

I don't know about your GSA club, but I can tell you about being gay. There is nothing wrong or embarrassing about being gay. It should be viewed as a natural life occurrance, but parts of our society have made gays an evil thing. That's not so. Gays are very moral, have solid families (when society allows them be together and raise kids), and their relationships last longer than heterosexual relationships. If you are confused, be patient with yourself and give yourself time to find which path you should follow, but don't listen to the prejudice you spoke about.