If we had to choice one or the other which do you think would be more important to the survival of the United States as we know it?
2006-09-17 03:16:12 · 23 answers · asked by Lisa M 3 in Politics & Government ➔ Government
I'm thinking about choosing Albannach's answer. As he/she stated "Seems to me you're saying government, at all levels, should be Godless."
Of course that is what I was saying. This was a liberal attempt to in some underhanded liberal satan-worshipping way, to say the US should be Godless.
(you can't see me rolling my eyes in the back of my head when I read this statement)
Geeze, some of you try to read between the lines far too hard for your own brains.
This is a sincere question, with many sincere answers. I posed it as I am curious as to how long our country could survive without them in an exclusive nature.
I'm sorry if I come across mean, but I just want people to chill out and bring us back to an age of reason. Where ideas are discussed on merit, rather than pure emotional knee-jerk reactions.
The Bible or the Constitution, both are important no doubt. But which is more important to the endurance of the Republic? That's all I'm asking.
2006-09-17 07:21:06 · update #1
Constitution
the United States were never built on any beliefs from the Bible
In a sermon of October 1831, Episcopalian minister Bird Wilson said, "Among all of our Presidents, from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism." The Bible? Here is what our Founding Fathers wrote about Bible-based Christianity: Thomas Jefferson: I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth. Jefferson again: Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus. More Jefferson: The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ. Jefferson's word for the Bible? Dunghill. John Adams: Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days? Also Adams: The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states: The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion. Here's Thomas Paine: I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible). Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible). It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible. Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance. The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty. Finally let's hear from James Madison: What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
oh yeah and Abraham Lincoln: "The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
2006-09-17 03:41:41 · answer #1 · answered by Voodoo Doll 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Good question. I would say the Bible has had the most impact on history as a whole and today continue to be very important in the way many people approach issues. The constitution was important, but most of its ideas originate in the republic and Most modern governments have evolved far beyond what is described in either document.
2006-09-17 03:27:22 · answer #2 · answered by Aaron S 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Constitution
2006-09-17 03:23:28 · answer #3 · answered by Fitforlife 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Constitution
2006-09-17 03:18:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
The Constitution - the Framers were all educated men, educated men of that day studied the bible and they took it into consideration when they wrote it. But the Constitution IS the Republic - and anyone in Federal Service (Military or Civilian) is sworn to defend the Constitution.
Happy Constitution Day everybody!
2006-09-17 03:36:39 · answer #5 · answered by Yo it's Me 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Constitution. The Bible is universal, the Constitution is specific to the Republic.
2006-09-17 03:45:46 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Constitution of the United States of America. Since without it there would probably be no freedom of religion. Hence, no need for the Bible......
2006-09-17 03:47:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
imo the constitution will not survive without people with a firm footing in the morality taught in the bible .. it will be slowly changed into somthing else ... kinda like is happening now. ... there was never a better country formed ... there was never a better constitution written imo ... there was never a nation given the liberties and freedoms that our founding fathers gave to us ... now there seems to be the idea that we have somehow outgrown it ... that we are somehow so modern that all of the constitution doesnt apply anymore .... we pawn it off for an imagined security and shun the values of our founding fathers ... spitting in their face and kidding ourselves that we dont need the bible or their values anymore ...
2006-09-17 03:24:32 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Constitution. No doubt, the Bible is the epitome of sentiments and wisdom and love...on and on and on.... Would any country survive just on sentiments alone? Don't really think so.
So yeah, my answer is the Constitution.
2006-09-17 04:30:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's getting harder and harder to tell that this country isn't being run by GEEZUS... but the CONSTITUTION is the most important because the Constitution is REAL and the Bible is just a collection of fantasy writings.
2006-09-17 03:23:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋