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Pope: You're all violent and the teachings of Mohammed directly say to spread islam by the sword.
Muslims: We're not violent. *Burn churches, kill christians.*

Half of America: They're not violent.

w-t-f?

Is everyone blind? Turkey is saying the Pope is trying to start a Holy war.
Has the Pope EVER said 'Jihad' like they all say? Has he ever denied the Holocaust, the killing of millions of people, and threatened to destroy another country?

Why can people NOT see the bias here? Why are we in denial about the islamic world? The muslim people as a whole support Jihad, period, and Christians do not compare to cutting off heads and denying millions of deaths.

2006-09-17 03:08:32 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

15 answers

What follows below is my response to a friend’s email concerning the same issue as what is being discussed in this forum:

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Its one thing for the common street hoodlum, or radical foot soldier, in Muslim countries, to be enraged by the comments made by the Pope. I don’t expect many of them to take time to deliberate the issue, or subsume the Pope’s comments in the proper context. They are reactionary beings. However, you would think that Imams’ and other Muslim clerics would me more academic in their reception of comments made by other religious leaders, affording their colleagues on the other side of the religious spectrum a fair hearing. Instead these so called learned men of Muslim upbringing are just as reactionary as the ruffians on the streets of Palestine, or the insurgents attacking their own people in Iraq.

It’s bizarre that both Jews and Christians are called to make concessions and penance to placate Muslim sensitivities, and yet any offense to Christian ideals or people by Muslim authorities is met with deafening silence. When Christian churches are burned to the ground, when our iconography is desecrated because of Islamic militancy, and when death threats are levied on our most revered religious figures, no one in our ranks cries out for apologies or even reparations. No calls for the destruction of Mosques; no command for the assassination of Muslim leaders; and no vitriolic statements from our religious leaders are made concerning Muslim clerics. Even when the more radical fringe of Christendom – men like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson – make inflammatory remarks concerning Muslims and Islam, there is a large outcry from both mainline Christianity and the western secular media denouncing their statements as inane and immoral.

It is the Muslim world that has failed dismally in their efforts to do the same. We always point the incriminating finger at those within our fold that act in a manner that is in discord with what we believe to be the noble thing to do. Muslim “moderates” standby quietly giving tacit approval to the aggression of their more “radical” brethren.

Muslims constantly lament the disproportionate military response to 9/11 that Bush has made. Many in the Christian wing and in the rest of the western world have called him on it, and criticize him constantly for it. Yet when Muslim people attack Christian churches for something as trivial as a cartoon or an insensitive statement made by another Christian, no one talks about the Muslim disproportionate reaction. At least our attack of Afghanistan and Iraq, though focusing on the wrong people, returned violence for violence. Muslims, in reaction to mere rhetoric, returns temporarily hurtful words with violence. Words are eventually forgotten; a loss of life has repercussions that never really go away. You tell me who is responding in a more disproportionate fashion? Who in this scenario is responding more unjustly?

I wonder if Muslims realize how utterly feeble minded they look every time they respond like this? I am curious if “moderate” Muslims are cognizant of the fact that the more they remain mute concerning the wrong doings of their radical counterparts, the more the rest of the world will see them as one in the same? For my part, I a little doubtful as to how divergent “moderate” Muslims are ideologically from their “radical” colleagues. Both of them believe that Muhammad is the supreme prophet, one who supersedes even Jesus in divine significance. Muslims of both “radical” and “moderate” stripe believe that Muhammad is also the ultimate paradigm of human behavior; a model that should be emulated as close as possible. Both, if truly candid, must acknowledge that Muhammad, UNLIKE Jesus, who is the Christian’s primary example for living, was a military commander that took part in violence, order assassinations, and engaged in all the brutality associated with a military enterprise. He ordered the execution of those whose only sin was to ridicule him. These are historical facts attested to in their Qu’ran, Hadith, and secular Arabian history. Maybe the so called “moderate” Muslims don’t vocalize dissent against the “radicals” in their midst because they know, in their heart of hearts, that those the world likes to marginalize as “radicals” really represent the manner of behavior Muhammad would have condoned. The “moderates” remain silent, so as not to underscore their secret agreement with “radical” tactics and their own cowardice at not acting on principles they agree with.

I am disappointed at my Pope for apologizing for statements that are truthful. The truth is always offensive. Jesus made statements to the Pharisees that were infused with controversy. He never apologized for them, despite how inflammatory they might have been. There is no need for Pope Benedict XVI to qualify his statement with an appeal to proper context. Even as an isolated statement, the statements by the Byzantine emperor, that the Pope was quoting, are a truthful assessment of Islam’s prophet. The Catholic Church needs stop being politically correct. The Catholic Church needs to cease abiding by a culture of appeasement. Why should the Pope apologize for the narrow minds of those who cannot read a statement in its context, or who cannot admit to the dark side of their faith? Contrition and forgiveness are foundations to the Christian faith, but to be contrite, when one is not at fault, makes a mockery of reconciliation. If the church continues to be spineless like this, even I will want to leave it.

2006-09-17 07:32:25 · answer #1 · answered by Lawrence Louis 7 · 1 0

Jihad is not a violent process, at least not how mohammed meant it. Jihad has two parts, leeser jihad-the cleansing of other people, and greater jihad- the cleansing of the self. Muslims are not meant to "spread Islam by the sword". Jihad is not supported by the entirety of Muslims, either. At least not the "We cut off your heads and burn your villages" form. Jihad is a peaceful process, where, at first, you begin by cleansing YOURSELF, you meditate, you pray, then seek help from your family. After that is done, you may begin spreading the word. Not by the sword, but by the word, preaching to anyone you find. If they are unreceptive, you simply move on, remembering them so you can talk to them again sometime. The crusades are an excellent example of how Jihad can go wrong. It started as a simple preaching mission, the Christians didn't like it, so they killed them off. That made the leader angry, he retaliated, and the war began, along with the unholy form of Jihad in which Muslims kill, burn, and torture non-Muslims. I myself am a Christian, but I believe in the understanding of other peoples. Jihad is not evil, the people who kill innocent men, women and children are evil, especially when they do it in the name of the lord.

2006-09-17 03:23:30 · answer #2 · answered by bobsanderson92 2 · 0 1

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2016-10-01 01:45:46 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

People have their head in the sand and continually want to appease the terrorists.The Pope said nothing out of context and he told the truth.You can not force your beliefs by killing and the Muslims are the only ones that are doing this.It shocks me how many appeasers there are to the muslims.They have no regard for human life and there are monsters torturing people the way they do.Beheading,raping our soldiers,men included,burning and dragging the bodies in the streets and dancing as if its a victory,they are ruthless and again monsters.And for you so called peaceful muslims..,I have said it before..,if you truly are then its damn time you rise up to the occasion and stop this with your people..,when you are silent you approve of what they are doing.And again as I said..,if anything happens to the pope you people will bring the wrath of the world on yourselves by not standing up to the extremists in your religion because the world will finally see the muslims are they truly are.

2006-09-17 03:21:19 · answer #4 · answered by halfbright 5 · 2 1

You know, if we did not continually try to foster the hatred over there by stepping into conflicts that are none of our business, and let Israel fend for itself without our billions, the muslims would not hate us like they do. We moved into Saudi Arabia and set up camp, on lands considered holy to their religion. That's the reason Bin Laden declared a jihad against us. We were there for economic reasons, to ensure a cheap supply of oil instead of drilling for oil on our atlantic and pacific coasts. Let's get our oil elsewhere so we won't perhaps spoil our beaches. We are greedy, and our greed has got us into this position. If we suddenly cut and leave the area, they will be begging us to buy their oil.

2006-09-17 03:22:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Liberals are still in denial about the threat of Islam. Liberals are too arogant to ever agree with a conservative even though they know in their evil little hearts that it's true.

2006-09-17 04:31:34 · answer #6 · answered by babe 2 · 0 0

There are to many leftist liberals that will believe anything, even Muslim lies about their religion, than say anything good about America. To them every problem on the whole planet is our fault, from the beginning of time to it's end. Never mind the facts, they are to troublesome to bother with.

2006-09-17 03:29:04 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

the entire world really must be jealous if they are uniting against it. the fact is that every country on earth goes through bad times, the US also. this doesnt mean we should "unite against" it and start hating it.
but i agree about the fact that democrats are so good-hearted and naive that even if a terrorist put a gun to their face they wouldnt even realize whats happening to them. theyd probably put a flower into the barrell.

2006-09-17 03:40:11 · answer #8 · answered by kunta kinte 2 · 1 1

This is why I keep buying guns and ammo by the case. If any of you are thinking about giving your guns to a buy back program, don't you'll be sorry!

2006-09-17 04:18:46 · answer #9 · answered by Jack S. Buy more ammo! 4 · 0 0

The conservatives are the problem. They are the ones dividing the country. Maybe if they stopped branding every one who disagrees with them in the slightest as "anti-American", this country might be less divided.

2006-09-17 04:14:17 · answer #10 · answered by brian2412 7 · 0 1

Entire world, irrespective their religion, including U.S., neighbouring countries are uniting against U.S.
Just think it.

2006-09-17 03:30:02 · answer #11 · answered by mushtaqehind 3 · 0 1

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