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i'm referring to the outrage over what the pope said...mere words, and a quote from somebody else no less..why the hell do they think they they are the only religion that counts..as a christian, i feel we try to be tolerant of other religions...i don't just feel that way, i know it to be fact!..seems like muslim/islam is so intolerant..this is a serious question, i'm not just letting off steam...thanks

2006-09-16 15:05:22 · 14 answers · asked by jstrmbill 3 in News & Events Current Events

14 answers

What follows below is my response to a friend’s email concerning the same issue as what is being discussed in this forum:

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Its one thing for the common street hoodlum, or radical foot soldier, in Muslim countries, to be enraged by the comments made by the Pope. I don’t expect many of them to take time to deliberate the issue, or subsume the Pope’s comments in the proper context. They are reactionary beings. However, you would think that Imams’ and other Muslim clerics would me more academic in their reception of comments made by other religious leaders, affording their colleagues on the other side of the religious spectrum a fair hearing. Instead these so called learned men of Muslim upbringing are just as reactionary as the ruffians on the streets of Palestine, or the insurgents attacking their own people in Iraq.

It’s bizarre that both Jews and Christians are called to make concessions and penance to placate Muslim sensitivities, and yet any offense to Christian ideals or people by Muslim authorities is met with deafening silence. When Christian churches are burned to the ground, when our iconography is desecrated because of Islamic militancy, and when death threats are levied on our most revered religious figures, no one in our ranks cries out for apologies or even reparations. No calls for the destruction of Mosques; no command for the assassination of Muslim leaders; and no vitriolic statements from our religious leaders are made concerning Muslim clerics. Even when the more radical fringe of Christendom – men like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson – make inflammatory remarks concerning Muslims and Islam, there is a large outcry from both mainline Christianity and the western secular media denouncing their statements as inane and immoral.

It is the Muslim world that has failed dismally in their efforts to do the same. We always point the incriminating finger at those within our fold that act in a manner that is in discord with what we believe to be the noble thing to do. Muslim “moderates” standby quietly giving tacit approval to the aggression of their more “radical” brethren.

Muslims constantly lament the disproportionate military response to 9/11 that Bush has made. Many in the Christian wing and in the rest of the western world have called him on it, and criticize him constantly for it. Yet when Muslim people attack Christian churches for something as trivial as a cartoon or an insensitive statement made by another Christian, no one talks about the Muslim disproportionate reaction. At least our attack of Afghanistan and Iraq, though focusing on the wrong people, returned violence for violence. Muslims, in reaction to mere rhetoric, returns temporarily hurtful words with violence. Words are eventually forgotten; a loss of life has repercussions that never really go away. You tell me who is responding in a more disproportionate fashion? Who in this scenario is responding more unjustly?

I wonder if Muslims realize how utterly feeble minded they look every time they respond like this? I am curious if “moderate” Muslims are cognizant of the fact that the more they remain mute concerning the wrong doings of their radical counterparts, the more the rest of the world will see them as one in the same? For my part, I a little doubtful as to how divergent “moderate” Muslims are ideologically from their “radical” colleagues. Both of them believe that Muhammad is the supreme prophet, one who supersedes even Jesus in divine significance. Muslims of both “radical” and “moderate” stripe believe that Muhammad is also the ultimate paradigm of human behavior; a model that should be emulated as close as possible. Both, if truly candid, must acknowledge that Muhammad, UNLIKE Jesus, who is the Christian’s primary example for living, was a military commander that took part in violence, order assassinations, and engaged in all the brutality associated with a military enterprise. He ordered the execution of those whose only sin was to ridicule him. These are historical facts attested to in their Qu’ran, Hadith, and secular Arabian history. Maybe the so called “moderate” Muslims don’t vocalize dissent against the “radicals” in their midst because they know, in their heart of hearts, that those the world likes to marginalize as “radicals” really represent the manner of behavior Muhammad would have condoned. The “moderates” remain silent, so as not to underscore their secret agreement with “radical” tactics and their own cowardice at not acting on principles they agree with.

I am disappointed at my Pope for apologizing for statements that are truthful. The truth is always offensive. Jesus made statements to the Pharisees that were infused with controversy. He never apologized for them, despite how inflammatory they might have been. There is no need for Pope Benedict XVI to qualify his statement with an appeal to proper context. Even as an isolated statement, the statements by the Byzantine emperor, that the Pope was quoting, are a truthful assessment of Islam’s prophet. The Catholic Church needs stop being politically correct. The Catholic Church needs to cease abiding by a culture of appeasement. Why should the Pope apologize for the narrow minds of those who cannot read a statement in its context, or who cannot admit to the dark side of their faith? Contrition and forgiveness are foundations to the Christian faith, but to be contrite, when one is not at fault, makes a mockery of reconciliation. If the church continues to be spineless like this, even I will want to leave it.

2006-09-17 07:31:30 · answer #1 · answered by Lawrence Louis 7 · 1 0

Because these Islamic extremists are a bunch of hypocrites. They can say and do anything horrible and inflammatory, but when they are criticized, they complain. They don't deserve any apology, either. The quote from the Pope was not flattering, but these assholes just proved they have no room for freedom of speech or a free humanity, either. Let the Pope say his piece.
They may try to kill the Pope again for his free speech. Pope Paul almost died from a gunshot wound in 1981, but Paul went to the shooter in jail and forgave him in person a few years later. I do not expect any apology from the Muslims for wanting to kill Israel or all of the rest of us.
These Islamic hypocrites think they are the only religion on the planet and they don't respect other religions. Don't give them the time of day. To hell with them.
Let them burn down there own cities in protest, I don't care.

2006-09-16 17:14:03 · answer #2 · answered by randyrich 5 · 0 0

Most Muslims reside in third world countries, many (not all) a very uneducated and are not given the whole story. What the Pope said has been exploited by the trouble makers to get people all riled up.

Felix, I think that those few Muslim that you speak of did more than say a few words. They have been blowing up people in Spain, London, Bali, India, Israel, their own countries and last by not least; New York and Washington D.C. Now that tends to p!ss off even the most reasonable people.

2006-09-16 15:23:55 · answer #3 · answered by scarlettt_ohara 6 · 0 0

Muslims believe that Christians will go to hell when they die because they seek another religion other than Allah. They believe the word of Allah sends them to be violent and hate any other religion since they believe this is what Allah wants. I am also baffled by it as most of us do not force our religion on anyone else, and don't see others as being any more or less of a person based on their beliefs.

2006-09-16 15:33:34 · answer #4 · answered by Rexy 3 · 0 0

All religions in this world preaches good mankind to one another, yes most muslims are in the third world countries unlike the Arabs of course, who are not educated and always jumps to conclusions of assumptions and couldn't see what is right or wrong, and didn't know how to analyst whats happening in the world today. Hope the World just grows up and look how many things we can improve to our lives by just paying a bit of understandings, sigh!

2006-09-16 17:06:02 · answer #5 · answered by ithegreat 1 1 · 0 0

I recognize the fact that there are peaceful Muslims but honestly their "holy" texts make violence an easy interpretations.

Also in many Islamic countries there is not as much religious freedom to diverge. Often if an imam teaches something a radical does not like they get assassinated. It is extremely difficult to create change when such brutal methods are used to settle disagreement.

2006-09-16 15:47:09 · answer #6 · answered by Love of Truth 5 · 0 0

They're a bunch of cry babies and are just looking for any excuse to hit the streets and shoot off their mouths and guns. They don't know it, but burning American flags is good for the flag business and I don't any one that it actually offends. Personally I think they are just plain crazy. If they spent as much time working as they do running their mouths and trying to start something they'd be a lot happier.

2006-09-16 15:19:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

well that shows that muslim/islamic is infact not a peaceful religion. if u listen, they claim to be a very peacefull religion but have u noticed any of our fellow christians becoming extremists like the muslims??? although i believe that there are some christian extremists out there, you do not see wars and violence started by any intolerable christians do you? that just goes to show you that christianity is a truthfull religion(i dont know how to word it but you dont see us doing these things)

2006-09-16 15:11:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

because they find all non-muslims offensive, what we do, say, eat, the way we sleep, sh.it, pray are wrong to them, but they can comment bout others religion, they can say bad about christians, jews and still think they are always on the right path to heaven

let them shout and curse, we follow the gandhi way see who win lol

2006-09-16 15:34:21 · answer #9 · answered by lantaliban 4 · 1 0

i think of its by using fact even however its a stupid low funds movie its no longer completely baseless. the countless stuff, like how women human beings would desire to be taken care of and stuff, is actual there contained in the Quran so i think all human beings is aggravated with the actuality. international locations like Libya are extremely risky precise now, like a pissed off guy who snaps at you for the slightest ingredient.i'm guessing some human beings choose to take great factor with reference to the region and change stupid, impressionable human beings into protestors against u.s.. Its extra by using fact of their society than their faith i think of...

2016-10-01 01:28:12 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

You think that what Bush is doing is not violent, just because some few Muslims said a few things he didn't agree with, now, come on, get a life

2006-09-16 15:14:23 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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