How fake are non IV League college admission statistics?

Question

Our school guidence consuler, who has a masters and toured over half of ALL US school told us that University's "manipulate" their statistics like you wouldent belive in order to attract superior students

I mean to say that IV leauge's are the only ones who dont need to "pad" there statistics.

Answer 1

Who told you the Ivy League schools don't manipulate their statistics? (BTW, it's Ivy, not IV). They absolutely do. Several of the wealthier Ivies actually have so much money that they have to continually build new buildings just to use it up and keep their non-profit status. Tutition is just a drop in the bucket, and yet they charge exhorbitant tution and then agree to meet everyone's finicial need (which they could easily do even if not a single student could pay a cent of tuition). Why? Statistics! Having a higher portion of your students on financial aid looks better, so they jack the price up to where no one can afford it and then come out looking great by giving them all financial aid. Of course, the only reason they needed financial aid in the first place is because the school padded their tuition to ensure they'd have the opportunity to provide it.

Ever get unsoliticed mail from a school you know you have no chance of getting into? You can't possibly think that Harvard really needs to advertise can you? The goal of those letters is to make kids think they have a chance so they'll apply, and the school can reject more people, thereby inflating their statistics.

What do you think a sports scholarship does? It allows them to get the best athletes, so they can move up in the sports rankings. Winning more football games is a statistic too.

It's all about statistics. And the Ivies are NOT exempt.

And then there are the less obvious ones. Most schools will hire lots of part time faculty to boost their student:teacher ratio. That's a pretty simple one. But there's also a chance to boost their statistics in how they calculate that ratio. It's NOT just number of students divided by number of professors. Rather, it's number of full-tuition equivalents divided by number total number of full and part time faculty members. So someone who has half their tuition payed for by financial aid only counts as half a student for that calculation. Now, remember how they jack their tuition up and give lots of finacial aid? That means they have a lot fewer full-tuition equivalents that if they didn't give most of their students some amount of financial aid.

Another place they inflate their statistics are those SAT scores and GPAs of their freshman class. They find reasons to exclude students admitted on athletic scholarships or legacy, since those kids will have lower numbers.

The point is that ALL schools inflate their statistics one way or another. Even the Ivies.

Answer 2

why? Are you looking for someone to blame for something you cannot ... Ivy simply referes to the old schools in new england that had rock walls that ivy grows on.. Most universities have about the same admissions requirements.. or you looking for afirmative action stats?? The SMART thing to do is get into school based on qualification not color.

Answer 3

It doesn't matter if the school is Ivy League or not, it still can be really good and even more prestigious than some of the lesser known Ivies, so obviously all admission stats are real.

Answer 4

Not only are non-IV schools just as good, but you'll save a tone of money in the long run on student loans. But for your question, they are not fake at all.