An investigation of Justin McCarthy (a professor of history at the University of Louisville) will help you:
The plan of the Armenian Nationalists has not changed in more than 100 years. It is to create an Armenia in Eastern Anatolia and the Southern Caucasus, regardless of the wishes of the people who live there. The Armenian Nationalists have made their plan quite clear. First, the Turkish Republic is to state that there was an "Armenian Genocide" and to apologize for it. Second, the Turks are to pay reparations. Third, an Armenian state is to be created.
If the Armenians were to be given what they claim, and if every Armenian in the world were to come to Eastern Anatolia, their numbers would still be only half of the number of those Turkish citizens who live there now. Of course, the Armenians of California, Massachusetts, and France would never come in great numbers to Eastern Anatolia. The population of the new "Armenia" would be less than one-fourth Armenian at best. Could such a state long exist? Yes, it could exist, but only if the Turks were expelled. That was the policy of the Armenian Nationalists in 1915. It would be their policy tomorrow.
We should be very clear on Armenian claims. Their claims are not based on history, because Armenians have not ruled in Eastern Anatolia for more than 900 years. Their claims are not based on culture: Before the revolutionaries and the Russians destroyed all peace, the Armenians and Turks shared the same culture. Armenians were integrated into the Ottoman system, and most of the Armenians spoke Turkish. They ate the same food as the Turks, shared the same music, and lived in the same sorts of houses. The Armenian claims are surely not based on a belief in democracy: Armenians have not been a majority in Eastern Anatolia for centuries, and they would be a small minority there now. Their claims are based on their nationalist ideology. That ideology is unchanging. It was the same in 1895 and 1915 as it is in 2005. They believe there should be an "Armenia" in Eastern Turkey-no matter the history, no matter the rights of the people who live there.
History teaches that the Armenian Nationalists will not stop their claims if the Turks forget the truth and say there was an Armenian Genocide. They will not cease to claim Erzurum and Van because the Turks have apologized for a crime they did not commit. No. They will increase their efforts. They will say, "The Turks have admitted they did it. Now they must pay for their crimes." The same critics who now say the Turks should admit genocide will say the Turks should pay reparations. Then they will demand the Turks give Erzurum and Van and Elazig and Sivas and Bitlis and Trabzon to Armenia.
I know the Turks will not give in to this pressure. The Turks will not submit, because they know that to do so would simply be wrong. How can it be right to become a member of an organization that demands you lie as the price of admission? Would any honest man join an organization that said, "You can only join us if you first falsely say that your father was a murderer?"
I hope and trust that the European Union will reject the demands of the Armenian Nationalists. I hope they will realize that the Armenian Nationalists are not concerned with what is best for Europe. But whatever the European Union demands, I have faith in the honor of the Turks. What I know of the Turks tells me that they will never falsely say there was an Armenian Genocide. I have faith in the honesty of the Turks. I know that the Turks will resist demands to confess to a crime they did not commit, no matter the price of honesty. I have faith in the integrity of the Turks. I know that the Turks will not lie about this history. I know that the Turks will never say their fathers were murderers. I have that faith in the Turks.
2006-09-15 20:32:16
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answered by dr_aybarskirgin 2
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If you want to be a wise human, then you should make a deep investigation on this issue.
I have an Armenian neighbor, with whom I drink "Turkish Raki" every week. We don't have any problem between us. We all are the "mediterranean people". Anything worse couldn't be between us personally. We all are the same, but we have bad histories too. The important thing is here the future. We have to write the future.
We all know that the land of Turkey is very important in every field. And we know that many countries have some desires on here. But they don't want to believe that their desires are impossible. With this motivation they are trying to damage the relationship between the peoples. The ignorance people, which can be easily fooled, says "so called" "Armenian Genocide", "Megalo idea" etc. etc. We must read read and read. We have to learn the meaning of the "Words" and we have to use them carefully.
To the poorest people below:
If you've learned what genocide means, then please explain us what armenians did in Karabagh?
2006-09-16 03:52:23
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answered by kalkan 2
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Is that project yours or your teachers. It is a trick to poison the fresh minds of the young people like you. Please do not belive that so called "Genocide". As scientists we have to move regarding the evidences.
Turkish government offered Armenian government to establish an international committee in UN.
The Turkish government said that both governments should make all resources, historical documents available for this committee and this committee should be free to research in both countries and both countries should accept the decision and be liable to the final result.
Armenian government rejected it.
The European Parliament sent the Armenian president a letter, urging him to support the Turkish request. Probably they rejected again because I never heard about a EU, UN or any other international committee working on it yet.
Armenia continues to make propaganda against Tukey, says that there are lots of proofs, documents etc. but do not accept establishing an international committee which can finally come out with certain results. If you are so sure, why to hide then ?
The claimed genocide was in a time of a civil war that Armenians, Azeris, Turks and Kurds involved. Turkey accepts that thousands of Armenians was killed by Turkish gangs, militas but thousands of Azeris, Kurds and Turks were killed by Armenians also in the same period. So it is not so easy to name it as a genocide.
It is same every where, my friend. The actual history and national history that tought in schools,family etc. is different in every country. If you are an Armenian, may be it is time for you to check other side of the story. For instance, you may start with the Azeris killed by Armenians.
You are lucky that you have a government which have strong lobby activities in other countries, means to reach international media. Armenia is capable of making enough noise about genocide claims and trying to make the world feel pity about them. On the other hand, claims of Azeirs about mass killings and international human rights crimes that done by Armenia cannot find any audience in the world today.
The claimed armenian genocide was almost a century ago. The claimed first Azeri genocide was almost a century ago, and then again and then again. Today there are still thousands of refugees because of the conflict between Azerbaycan and Armenia. Why don't you focus on your existing problem first because of which thousands of families is still suffering ????
2006-09-16 03:39:09
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answered by Hilber 1
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The Armenian Genocide, includes both the Genocide of the Assyrians and Greeks. 750,000 Assyrians and 1,000,000 Greeks were innoncently killed simply because they were Christians. Do not believe those that denounce the Genocide, they simply are trying to erase history. My ancestors escaped, but many Assyrians, and Christians of Turkey did not. Here is an exerpt from an Assyrian who survived the Genocide:
"At the same time, the Assyrians, who were residing in the suburb of the city, were brought together and driven into the spacious courtyard of a house [...] The Assyrian refugees were kept under guard for eight days, without anything to eat. At last they were removed from their place of confinement and taken to a spot prepared for their brutal killing. These helpless Assyrians marched like lambs to their slaughter, and they opened not their mouth, save by sayings "Lord, into thy hands we commit our spirits. [...]
The executioners began by cutting first the fingers of their victims, join by joint, till the two hands were entirely amputated. Then they were stretched on the ground, after the manner of the animals that are slain in the Fast, but these with their faces turned upward, and their heads resting upon the stones or blocks of wood Then their throats were half cut, so as to prolong their torture of dying, and while struggling in the agony of death, the victims were kicked and clubbed by heavy poles the murderers carried Many of them, while still laboring under the pain of death, were thrown into ditches and buried before their souls had expired"
2006-09-16 12:45:46
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answered by ImAssyrian 5
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You have to begin your project with learning the meanings of some words.
The word genocide means The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.
Did Turks did it, No. Did Armenians die, Yes. But how and why? Many armenians died that is true; but it was just after they were done killing, raping and torturing Turkish and Kurdish people with the power they took from the Russians who invaded North east part of Ottoman Empire. After Russians were kicked out, the armenians who betrayed their own country were forced to live by government, but the other peoples who were murdered raped and tortured wanted their revenge and unleashed their wrath upon the leaving armenians; so it was not the government who did it, if anything they tried to protect the armenians. It was the other comman peoples who were also citizen of Ottoman Empire. so it is not genocide it is a civil war and armenians started it. There are still mass graveyards being found in the eastern Turkey that are done by renegade armenians of the time. In Turkey, people do SPEAK and ACCEPT that armenians died but it was not done by the government and also the regular people know that armenians asked for it. And if you look for the explanations of actual "HISTORIANS" they also accept that fact not the ones accepted by lobbied "politicians" of the world.
2006-09-16 03:30:07
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answered by Smith 1
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Well, as this was posted in social science under "genocide" i wanted to put a link to something called "the pyramid of hate" its in a paper i posted in my livejournal. It is an amazing outline. It shows the social patterns that lead up to genocide.
"pyramid of hate---micro to macro"
2006-09-15 13:27:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Genocide is defined by the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (CPPCG) Article 2 as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
The issue is not why turks did what they did but if they did it.Well the massacre of about 1.500.000 people is nothing more than a genocide.They just wanted to eliminate a race (genos in Greek/genocide)
Whats wrong with you Smith?do u copy and paste all your answers?they are all the same
2006-09-16 08:17:17
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answered by Semiramis 4
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Armenians cheated the Turks at the WWI. They killed thousands of Turks, Azeris and Kurds with the trust to the power of Russia. When Ottoman Empire kicked out the Russians then it was the time to take revenge of this poor and sneaky armenians. By kicking out of the lands of the Ottoman Empire, this bloody armenians died on road. Who killed them? The people whos children, whos mothers, whos wifes, whos brothers or sisters were killed by armenians.
Is it massacre? or is it genocide?
Man, I say "IT IS JUSTÄ°CE"
2006-09-16 03:26:35
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answered by aaaturquoise_eyed 2
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Hi friend,
As an Armenian I can't accept your question. Noone killed us and noone can kill us. We killed them, we killed 100thousands of f****** Turks there. My grandfather and grandmother told me that we killed all of the Turks at WWI in the eastern regions of Turkey. Than unfortunately they took revenge from us. But it wasn't a genocide, because we all are alive around the world. We aren't weak people. We have lobies everywhere. We will beat that f*****Turks on every field. But I think that their revenge was unfair. The Turks should give their lands to us.
2006-09-16 03:58:05
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answered by Anonymous
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It was during the early 1900's when many Armenians were killed off by the Ottoman Empire (the Turks). Over a million Armenians were killed.
2006-09-15 12:46:59
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answered by Ice 4
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