Are Zimbabwe and south Africa good examples of a multicultural society?

Question

The reason i mention both is zim is what SA will become, it seems that when you have 2 cultures diametrically opposed and which ever side has the power they are going to look out for themselves and their interests. It would be foolish to try and pretend otherwise other examples are what happened to india during independence it split into 3 countries pakistan and bangladesh for the muslims and india for the hindus. Also what happened in france with the arabs and the blacks rioting because of their multicultural baggage and the french way of life clashing. Countries that have not went down the multicultural route japan, singapore and the scandinavian nations have the highest standard of living in the world virually no crime and racism isnt even a word in the dictionary.

Answer 1

The similarities between Zimbabwe and South Africa are too many to list. Those whites still living in South Africa are like the old Rhodesians-hoping against hope. South Africa is a de facto Communist regime despite claims that it is democratic. ( Zimbabwe also thinks it is a democracy). Mandela,Mbeki,Nquaqula,Mufamadi and many other Government Ministers are declared Communists. South Africa is also run on an elite Black beneficiary situation like Zimbabwe with a few Blacks ( Government) enriching themselves at the expense of the majority with false promises. Mbeki supports Mugabe so what else can you expect. South Africa is riddled with violent crime and corruption from the Government downwards plus 80% of it's population are illiterate. White farmers have been targetted for murdering and land grabs are on the go. Africa is just a blight on the face of the Earth and South Africa will head the same way as every Country to the North of it. It will only become civilised through the passage of time so they should be left to have their tribal wars until they reach a point where they are prepared to listen and behave in a civilised manner.

Answer 2

No, I do not think that either country is a good example of a multi-cultural society. The problems currently in SA stem from the apartheid regime, although the current government has a lot to answer for - especially by neglecting to combat the aids epidemic and raising expectations of the majority by promising too much too quickly.

You must remember that SA is a democracy. The side with the power is the side that the majority have elected to represent them.

Zimbabwe is a totally different scenario to SA. It is arguably a dictatorship - a tyrannical regime that is not concerned about the people - whether black or white - but with lining the pockets of it's cronies. SA is far from this and with it's recent history, I think it is impossible that SA could ever become an undemocratic tyranny again.

India was partitioned by the British following a democratic process involving the inhabitants - so I dont see your point in mentioning it.

I dont profess to know anything about 'the Arabs and the blacks' rioting in France. There are many blacks in Scandinavian countries.

Reading between the lines you sound like a very hateful bitter individual who has attempted to cloak his feeble racist argument behind a intellectually flawed analysis of the world and recent events in it.

FYI good examples would be most of the free world: America, Canada, Britain - Understand?

Answer 3

Zimbabwe will never be a good example of anything until after the demise of Mugabe. When he took over the country it was known as the "Bread Basket of Africa". Now it's people live in poverty and rely on International aid to stay alive in a country that is in ruins and where inflation is over 1000%. There isn't a white problem in the country it's tribal and Mugabe's party will allow no opposition.
South Africa is a much different case. When Mandela took over a Truth and Reconciliation Commission was set up to examine the past conflict and the actions of individuals. This seemed to clear away a lot of the mistrust and the government were able to build on it. There are probably still racists on either side but the majority appreciate that without a sense of harmony all will be losers. It is far from perfect but I do believe it will get there one day and be an example of, not only races, but tribes living in a peaceful democracy.

Answer 4

I think good examples are Botswana and Namibia, both countries that are reasonably peaceful and settled.
Tribalism, superstition and corruption are the main problems in South Africa and Zim. If they can be put aside, you'd get on better. Even Thabo Mbeki's brother said that South Africa was better under colonial rule. I've been told by a black woman that she preferred the old apartheid government because of the ANC incompetence.
South Africa is full of illiterates - Liberation before education - means that you have masses of youngsters with no qualifications. Hence the high crime rate.
I keep wondering how much effect AIDS will have on the population. Another serious problem in South Africa is the immigration of Nigerians and Somalians, amongst others. And of course, the drugs.

Answer 5

The world over, there is no good example of a multicultural society. This is because at one point or the other, there must be reason for the different races to be at each other's throat. One would want to dominate the other as it is with Zimbabwe and South Africa.

Answer 6

Putting Zimbabwe and South Africa in the same sack to bash the two at the same time, throwing in India and France for good measure, just shows how ill-informed the question is.
Zimbabwe is a corrupt dictatorship while SA has a functioning democracy.
Of course there are problems in South Africa, not least of them the enormous influx of refugees from Zimbabwe. There is still a massive amount of segregation and inequality. Expectations have been raised too high. We all know that and we still have good reasons to hope it will turn out alright in the end. And how would South Africa have avoided multiculturalism? By throwing every white and Asian person out? People like you would have been the first to scream and shout about ethnic cleansing!
If you want to see successful multiracial, multicultural societies,
look at Canada and quite a few of the South American countries.

Answer 7

Any culture is aware of a culture which is different. If the other culture has aspects that are diametrically opposed to, or threaten the security of the other culture you have a problem. Similar cultures, that share similar values, and have achieved similar levels of sophistication (ie: western european) can work, anything else is going to be rough ride.

Answer 8

Zimbabwe is a surreal mess in the throes of a man made famine, and South Africa's headed the same way.

Answer 9

hey im from South Africa, and i decided to move to london for that EXACT SAME reason!

I can see that the country is in turmoil, and the different party's are always ate one anothers throats to gain power!

I would say that its pretty inevitable that SA will become like Zimbabwe soon.. (not to sure WHEN though, because no one can really tell)

A very interesting question!!

I know i probably didnt ANSWER your questiona s you would have wanted it answered, but i gave you my view on it nevertheless!

Answer 10

no. in ZA there is huge social segragation between blakc and white.

zimbabwe chucked out most of the white people when Mugabe came into power so it isn't really mulitcultural just a fking mess.