For what should Pope Benedict apologize? Would any apology even be accepted? Forgive him? Isn't he telling the truth?
Isn't it more effective to use protests and violence to get attention for Islam? I wonder what level of protection the Swiss guards at the Vatican provide? What kind of weapons do they have?
Some contemporary evangelical Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell and Jerry Vines have called Muhammad "a terrorist" and a "demon possessed pedophile who had twelve wives". Daniel Pipes sees Muhammad as a politician, stating that "because Muhammad created a new community, the religion that was its raison d'etre had to meet the political needs of its adherents." By contrast, Pope Benedict quoting Manual II is quite mild.
Pope Benedict made the comments in a speech at the University of Regensburg which was probably a written speech so the comments were likely deliberate. The timing just before Ramadan may also have been deliberate. (Dates for Ramadan 2006 (or the Islamic year of 1427) are September 24th thru October 23rd.) In my opinion, the quote was appropriate for the times of the Crusades. The quote also seems applicable to Islamic jihhadists today.
Here is what Robbie Burns wrote and I think it can also be applied to jihaddists of today although it was written for Christians:
"On Thanksgiving For A National Victory"
Ye hypocrites are these your pranks
to murder men and give God thanks?
Desist, for shame proceed no further
God does ne want your thanks for murder.
Yah, I know, there is no compulsion in religion (2:256) and Islam is a peaceful religion. Taqiyah.
The one page essay by Dr. Walid Phares, "Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries" explains how a convert will become a terrorist:
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm
Phares states, "It [taqiyah] is done to prevent the new converts from seeing the real face of Islam; at least until their faith or mental conditioning is strong enough to make them turn against their own country and people."
Not all Muslims blow up things, yet "jihad in the cause of Allah" "jihad fee sybil Allah" is "fard ayn" "compulsory duty" for all Muslims. Why? There are rules from the Quran for combattive jihad. Read this:
http://www.notislam.com/id8.html
What does the tape from Gadahn mean? Does anyone realize that Muslims are supposed to "dawa" "invite others to Islam" before jihad?
According to al-Mawardi an 11th Century Shafi'i jurist:
The mushrikun [infidels] of Dar al-Harb (the arena of battle) are of two types: First, those whom the call of Islam has reached, but they have refused it and have taken up arms.… Second, those whom the invitation to Islam has not reached, although such persons are few nowadays since Allah has made manifest the call of his Messenger…it is forbidden to…begin an attack before explaining the invitation to Islam to them, informing them of the miracles of the Prophet and making plain the proofs so as to encourage acceptance on their part; if they still refuse to accept after this, war is waged against them and they are treated as those whom the call has reached…
In the Hidayah, vol. II. p. 140 (Hanafi school):
It is not lawful to make war upon any people who have never before been called to the faith, without previously requiring them to embrace it, because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith, and also because the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war… If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do."
Islam is insidious, it encroaches on a culture slowly and deliberately. You may be interested to read a document which discusses the degrees of Islam in great detail (50+ pages) -- "From dawa to jihad - the various threats from radical Islam to the democratic legal order":
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/netherlands/dawa.pdf
Among Muslims there are those who:
a) jihad in the path of Allah with their wealth and their lives (including those who sit at home but give asylum to mujahidin 4:74) = true Muslim
b) those who sit at home (and do not give asylum to mujahidin or jihad in the path of Allah)
c) the handicapped (does not count as a category)
In the Quran 4:95 it says:
The two are not equal: those who sit at home (and do not join the fighting) _ unless they have a reason; they are handicapped _ and those who [jihad] strive hard in the path of Allah with their wealth and lives. Over those who sit at home, Allah has excelled and elevated to a higher honor those who strive hard with their wealth and lives.
Compared to those who sit at home, Allah will award a far greater reward to those who wage a struggle.
8:74 Those who believed, left their homes and waged a struggle for the cause of Allah as well as those who helped and protected them are really the true believers. There is forgiveness for them and a generous rewards.
49:15 The (true) believers are actually those who believe in Allah and His messenger and then do not waver (and do not entertain doubts). With their wealth and their lives, they strive for the sake of Allah. Such are truly the sincere ones
Killing (qitl) and jihad in the cause of Allah is the hallmark of true Muslim believers. It is not a matter of moderate or fanatic. It is the distinction of a true believer or a rebel.
4:76 Those who believe, do fight for the sake of Allah, while those who reject faith (Islam) fight for the cause of ‘taghut’ _ (all rebellious forces aligned against Allah). So, fight against the minions of Shaitan. Feeble indeed is the wily guile of Shaitan!
Does this include atomic weapons?
8:60 Acquire and prepare all the (military) strength you can muster, including the finest trained horses (and other military wares). With that, you would daunt and deter the enemies of Allah _ your enemies, and others besides them. You do not know them, but Allah (surely) knows them. Anything you spend in the path of Allah will be returned to you in full. You will not be wronged (at all).
2:216 Warfare (for the sake of Allah) has been ordained for you, though it is not something you like. It is possible that the thing you detest might just (turn out to) be good for you. It is possible that the thing you like (the most) might in reality be bad for you. Allah knows (all) while you know nothing (at all)!
I hope that these verses from the Qur'an can give you and others insight into the mind of a Muslim believer and the peaceful religion of Islam. Perhaps you may read the entire sura from which they were extracted so you can get the entire context of the verses.
2006-09-15 12:49:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Judging all Muslims by the lunatic fringe elements so beloved of the media news cameras, is like judging all Christians by the Snake Dancer cult in Tennessee (Kentucky?). I have had perfectly reasonable discussions with Muslims about religion. They must defend the tenets of their faith, just as sincere Christians must aver that their's is the only path. Except, most of us don't feel the need to fight and kill each other over it. Those that do are crazy fanatics and should be abhorred and restrained by all good persons of all rational and decent religious persuasions.
2006-09-15 02:22:30
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answered by Mad Roy 6
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you do not trust what the Pope quoted from the 14th century? What do you recommend not paying interest. His speech became approximately uniting all believers in God. did not you study all what he became asserting? He did not ignite something. He became chatting with followers, believers in God. Muslims overreact via fact their government insists that they do. And their government(s) have alterior motives. They burn issues out of protest. yet while their former President got here to the u . s . final week and reported recommend issues in some extensive church right here did the u . s . burn that former President in effagy? Heck no, we merely omitted the guy. reason he wasn't questioning. All i understand is that Islam desires to herald regards to the top of the international so their savior might arrive...he neglected the date he became meant to reach some weeks in the past. they don't pick to go through the embarassment that in keeping with risk, merely in keeping with risk they have been incorrect and ought to have believed interior the unique savior. yet additionally, there's a cultural and language barrier and Islam merely does not understand human beings, and human beings do not probable care (many times) if somebody does not understand them.
2016-10-15 00:44:58
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answered by mulry 4
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People would do well to acknowledge that this pope has also openly declared that all other churches are not proper churches, so he may be slighty even handed in his condemnation of others.
2006-09-15 02:33:15
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answered by mutaali t 3
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Because they are evil idiots that believe they are perfect and should rule the world. Pretty much decendents of Hitler.
2006-09-15 02:26:44
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answered by Domi 2
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Who says Muslims can't take it? They take it and protest same as the Christians do, but most Christians are blinded to the foibles of their own.
2006-09-15 02:07:55
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answered by Niche Jerk 4
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i agree with you. Look at the whole Danish cartoon thing, the muslims went crazy, yet all over the muslim world their are derogatory pictures of christ.
2006-09-15 02:07:06
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answered by Bryn H 2
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO What? Get a life, go do something, just ignore the muzzies and they'll go away, eventually, hahaha
2006-09-15 02:10:56
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answered by Anonymous
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well they got the convicted would be assasin right there in turkey, they can dust him off and send him on his way
2006-09-15 20:37:31
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answered by acid tongue 7
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You hit the nail on it's head.
2006-09-15 06:27:32
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answered by composertype 5
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It's a Christian , Muslim thing , Im glad Im not any part of it .
2006-09-15 02:05:18
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answered by kevin d 4
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