can someone please tell me what the hell we're doing in Iraq?

Question

WMDs? yeah right..we'd all love to see them
Freedom for the Iraqi people? sure, over bullets, rockets and civil war... and since when is our government so altruist in the first place?
MY freedom?? all I see are my civil liberties taken away
Saddam regime was a threat to the US? hehe, so is Iran, North Korea, Venezuala and the whole world that just can't stand the US..

Are our troops dying over there? YES
Are our money and resouces used in billions? YES
Is that war getting rid of terrorist groups? NO

Tell me, what are we doing over there?
Afghanistan was a threat and I'm okay with that, but Iraq....?

fathead and Colorado

What civil liberties? I'm glad you asked.
Under the Patriot Act, my library, medical, business, credit records can all be turned over to the government without my knowledge.
Yeah, they can even listen in on my phone conversations...imagine that!
If you're okay with having those rights taken from you, then what's the Constitution and Bill of Rights there for uh?

Answer 1

ask Bush.. only he knows..

Answer 2

We're attempting to create a Western style democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan. This will not only create a military and political presence on Iran's two flanks (and afterall, islamic jihadism found its' first home in Tehran during Jimmy Carter's pathetic occupation of the White House), if we succeed, moderate muslims will have two safe havens to escape to and operate from.
If we succeed, and I believe we will, the middle east will be a better place for it.

Our troops are dying there but they are still safer than your average kid in your average inner city hood!

Your civil liberties haven't been touched unless of course, you're on the phone with a militant mullah from across the pond.

Saddam did have WMD's. We know because we sold him some. They haven't been found because Bush wasted too much time trying to appease world opinion. The weapons are probably in Syria.

We need not be altruistic to fight this war. In fact it is better that we fight it selfishly. After all, what's more selfish than survival?

Is the war going to get rid of terrorists? NO. I'm afraid terrorists, like whining liberals, have always been and always will be with us. Did WW2 get rid of Nazis? NO. Check the internet, the fools are still out there. What war does is pull the teeth out of sick and twisted movements like nazism and jihadism.

If you weren't one with the world in hatred of America, you would be supporting the war on terror, where ever the battle against it is joined.

But then maybe, you would look good in a bhurka.

Answer 3

Did Saddam use WMD's on his own people? Yes. If he had them once, could he not do it again? UN (worthless entity) gave the guy 14 chances to come clean. They annouce all of their inspections, hum, do you suppose Saddam is so stupid as to show and tell the inspectors where abouts of the WMD's? Wait, let's keep them around for the US forces to find them! C'mon, Saddam is not stuipd. He knows how to play the game. He will play it as long as he can. It is just his game is going to end earlier than he thought. By the way, who was shooting at our boys patrolling the no-fly zone anyway?

Freedom is never free. There was plenty of blood spilled over our own fight for independence. And, yes, our govt may not be and never will be perfect, you need to ask how many people around the world who do thank the US for saving their butts. When no one else cared, we cared. If not, we (meaning most of the world) could all be speaking either Japanese and/or German today and, as history clearly shows, these 2 nations weren't exactly kind to those under their power. When was the last time Iraqis were able to go to the pole and voted? What did millions of Iraqis here drove hundres of miles just to cast 1 vote? How fast do you think it'd take to establish a staple country? No one wishes for a fight but, some times, we need to fight just to get what we want. Hey, ever bought a car? Don't like the game, eh? But, did you not feel good that you had a chance to fight for the best value for you and, this, is just a tiny case, is it not?
Unless you are doing something illegal, why are you worried about your civil liberties being taking away when they are not. Try and go to Cuba and publically critize Castro and, then, talk about your civil liberties. You and others like you seem to not understand just how much civil liberties we enjoy here.

When did the terrorist move into Iraq? Just recently or have they always been there? Are they manufacturing weapons in some cave or basement or is it easier to get it from some body? By invading Kuwait, what message did Saddam send? If he would test chemical weapons on his own and fired missles into Israel, are you sure he won't be going after US, Israel's allie? Whole world just can't stand the US? May be you ought to travel a bit and find out.

No, I don't believe that we'd ever get rid of terrorist groups but, just like the school yard bully, you can stop them when you show that you'd stand up to them. How many attacks on US soil since we returned fire?

Finally, why are we over there? So that you and I can have a free exchange of ideas without fear!

Answer 4

There's this great documentary called "Why We Fight" that gives a good explanation for why America went to war in Iraq.
Essentially it is part ideology, part economics. In this documentary they say that war is good business. After the arms build up during the cold war, a whole industry was at risk of becoming obsolete (the arms industry). Many jobs are dependent on the arms industry and due to the political nature of it, congressmen are able to lobby and get contracts for their districts. None of them want to lose jobs so they all push hard to keep this industry going. Now the problem is that you need a market to justify all this weaponry, therefore you need wars (or at least costumers for your weapons). At this juncture, this is where ideology comes into play. America has a doctrine that says that in order to be secure (economically and defensively) you need to maintain supremacy no matter the cost, and that cost is twofold: You have to outspend everybody with your military and you have to intervene if your strategic interests are at risk. Now here's the kicker. The CIA has an expression called "blow back" which essentially says that when the US intervenes there might be negative repercussions. But that's okay because then the government can do some fear mongering and say "You see, they are out to get us, we need more military spending" and hence the arms industry keeps its markets: the US that needs to keep outspending and the various factions that fight each other in the regions that became unstable due to US intervention.

As an example: After WWII Iran was a democracy. In 1951 it elected a pro-democratic nationalist Prime Minister, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, who believed that Iran was selling off its resources cheaply. He therefore decided to nationalize the country's oil industry. Most of it was being explored by BP. The UK government, alarmed by this loss, approached the US in 1953 and together they staged a coup against the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran. A consequence of this coup was the death of democracy in Iran. The Shah (the monarch of Iran) gathered power and Iran became a very autocratic repressive country. The US and the UK toppled a democracy to keep BP in Iran and help the wealthy owners of BP to keep on plundering Iran. Thus the stage was set for the Islamic revolution. The dictatorship became so bad, that in 1979 Iran went into revolt and became an Islamic state. They had good reasons to hate America and the West and hence the "blow back" from destroying democracy in Iran. But it was fine because Iran and Iraq went to war. Iraq (and hence Saddam) got support from the US to keep Iran preoccupied. Iran needed weapons so it kept selling oil. The West kept getting its oil and now it had another market for its weapons as well as an excuse to keep its own massive military spending. Who cares that Iran isn't a democracy or that the region is so unstable or that millions of innocent Iranians and Iraqis have died? Yes they sometimes lash out, and sometimes the west gets attacked by terrorists, but the people who matter, the multi-millionaires and billionaires who own the arms industry and the oil industry, don't use public transit or fly in commercial planes (they have their own jets). It's the little people who take the bus to go to work or who fly commercially when going on vacation, so who cares?... But I digress.

In the end, we fight because it's in the interest of a small group of very powerful, very wealthy people that we do so. And as long as they keep the majority complacent by feeding us crapy TV, crapy fast food and celebrity gossip, they know they can get away with it.

I wonder what would the middle east be like if the US hadn’t destroyed democracy in Iran?

Oh and by the way, I'm not a muslim or a communist or making this stuff up. This is all true...

Answer 5

i agree with you, except about the civil liberties...but your main question was about the war. indeed. why? it all started with osama bin laden. then suddenly, he drops out of the news. why? oh all of a sudden, it's okay to just get saddam instead. why? he wasn't connected to the 911 attacks. and another thing about the 911 attacks. watch this clip on spiked humour: http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/10522/911_and_American_History.html seems eye opening. i think it may have something to do with the fact that europe has a single currency. they're now a super trading power, and the USA needs control of that oil in order to keep up with them. we won't be ''top dogs'' anymore unless we usurp the oil. there have been so many rediculously obvious cover ups involving the war, these ppl are desperate, and there are no rules for them. they play to win, there's no honour, no right or wrong for them.

Answer 6

... its part of a master plan to secure the entire middle east .. there are several key objectives .. one is economics and a fueling of the military industrial complex and competition between major defense contractors from europe and the US, there is a different military objective than is quoted to the public ... that is a strong military presense and bases to be strategically placed against a strengthening china .. and thirdly there is oil ... after the entire middle east is secured we will effectively control approx 70% of the worlds oil .. there are piplines and transport routes existing and planned through iran to the caspian sea .. through afganistan ..upwards through the balkans (remember the war in bosnia) ... and now are we starting to connect the dots you think? lets connect one more dot while im at it and let me say that 911 was the justification to go into the middle east ... you decide if the master plan called for it or if it was just a golden opportunity....

Answer 7

The US govt is busy raping the resources of Iraq. When these are exausted they will no longer require Iraq. They dont give a damn for the citizens of this country. Currently the American machinery is being run by the "blood" of innocent Iraqi civilians including weman and children. Amazingly most "god fearing" Americans can sleep peacefully knowing that our blood is fuelling the American economy.

Answer 8

We need a base in the mid-east.
We do not want Iraqi oil to mess up Opec price fixing.
We want all the terrorist to fight an army with guns over there instead of here.
We want to control the refined gas from Iraq to Iran.
We want the mid east hooked on western products while their oil is still worth something.
We do not want the American public to notice how crappy the economy is.

Answer 9

Trying unsuccessfully to bring back the stability that we took away when we overthrew Saddam. After we overthrew Saddam, Sunnis and Shiites have been fighting each other over control of Iraq. We have been fighting them in an effort to stop them from fighting each other. At the same time we are fighting against insurgents trying to get the invading army out of their country. Every day we lose more and more ground and I think it's time to just cut our losses.

Answer 10

you are non to brite are you? any bombings or ant other terrorist attacks since the US forces have gone in Afghanistan and Iraq. You are just too stupid to make the connection i guess. just be glad there is a lot of people smarter than you running the country.

Answer 11

In my opinion, Baby Bush was going to go into Iraque no matter what. The popular thing to say is that it's better to fight terrorists over there than over here. This statement is ignorant. Terrorists aren't confined or limited to any one country. They cause destruction and death in any country they choose.