Whats beyond our universe?

Question

Is our universe infinite, or is there and end to it and something else beyond it? Like the whole marble thing at the end on men in black

Answer 1

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There are many conflicting theories about this and the latest scientific models have become extremely complex and sophisticated that to the point they mean very little in a logical sense as they try to prove things mathematically.

From “Super string theory” to the “M-theory”, there is a vast array of explanations of what the universe really is before we can talk about what is beyond. Yet the so called “Theory of everything” is not any closer than it was centuries ago.

I believe resorting to mathematics and formulae to interpret the universe is a rather foolish approach to go about it, as it was only the humans that invented mathematics and numbers and they don’t at all relate to any form to the rest of the universe. Perhaps the only numerical values or concepts that are relevant to the universe as a whole are zero and infinity. While mathematics and scientific calculation methods are powerful practical tools to determine earthly and near earth matters from making bridges stronger to measuring distance between stars, we can’t rely on it as a tool to decipher the universe.

I personally believe that a simple model of considering the universe as made up of many components such as space, time, energy, matter etc all of which can be inter converted (as it is the case with mass to energy). The notion of what is “beyond” implies that we are talking about space. It is quite likely that by the time we reach the “edge” of the space dimension, other phenomena such as time is also likely to be absent beyond that. Yet, it doesn’t make sense to think of an abrupt end to space and time hence it is more likely to fade away gradually in a chaotic cloudlike manner. The only way we can think of “fading” time is to resort to the concept of “time rate”.

I believe the only reason why the speed of light is not infinite but a finite value (despite the fact that there is no reason why there should be a delay between one electric field oscillation to trigger the next magnetic field oscillation) is because we live in a space time region that has a time rate other than the most natural value for it to be. (we should never take it for granted that our region of the universe is where the most basic or fundamental conditions exist).

I also believe all things to exist in the universe – the existenceies – are receding back to it’s most natural state – the oblivion or nothingness. So the universe is currently at a state of imploding into nothingness, and the process is getting faster each second. Yet, due to the fact that this process is taking a finite amount of time (again due to the other than ideal time rate) we enjoy the luxury of staying around for the time being.

Therefore, what is “beyond” our universe is simply the oblivion. Even though there could be other universes “out there” we don’t have any relation to them what so ever as they existence is entirely irrelevant to ours, and don’t pose any influence on us.

Then again this is just my thoughts and I don’t have a Phd in theoretical physics.


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Answer 2

If I answer your question by conventional knowledge it will grow as large as this universe itself and the question will remain unanswered. The fact is that we still live in a world where knowledge is acquired through the study of physical phenomena. How can we measure the entire waters of an ocean by using a cup of ice made out of the very water of the ocean? And how can we understand the contents of an entire book with only few letters of alphabets in hand?

We are still attuned to seeing things of the universe by their analogue circular or eliptical movements where all things like electrons, molecules, planets, stars and galaxies are at one place or the other all the time – a positional continuum. The digital interpretation of the phenomenon of the universe however is quite different. According to digital analogy there is either one or zero – existence or non-existance. This is not the world in which things happen because of their time, place or position - things happen or they just don't. The existence of the universe is one such happening. It is therefore it is and there is nothing else. The illusion of place and the size of the universe is due to fact that we try to perceive the universe just through physical dimension. In physical dimension there are beginnings and then there are ends. There are sizes and then there are shapes. This is how our physical reality of managed. This type of perception does not free us from what we like to be free from. How can you observe something when you are inside it. You will never know how big it is.

The universe exists. There is nothing beyond. We feel and thing that there is because we see things of all sorts inside the universe. Therefor our question is a part of the universe. If so then how would it bring us an answer that is outside the universe. The best guess we can have is based upon our own existence. There is nothing in the universe more sophisticated that our own construct. We generate ideas, thoughts and notions. Where do all these come from? The is no universal logic that can show me how a thought pops into my head suddenly. The fact is that they come into existence just like the universe did. The essence of universe is stranger than we can ever perceive with the help of the stuff of the univserse. What can be so strange if the stuff that makes that thing is well known matter.

You question is a universal question but it aims at something beyond the universe. If it goes beyond than it will not longer be universal.

Answer 3

If you travel in any direction in a perfectly straight line you will eventually come back to the same starting point. The problem is that even at the speed of light you would never have enough time to go all around the universe. The universe is a three dimensional space defined by multiple dimensional forces we see as the elemental particles. The whole thing floats on a billion trillion dimensional existence that is beyond our comprehension.

Answer 4

might help , when a sun collapse and forms a black hole ,the thing that happens is in the collapsing the mater as it approaches the speed of light the mass will become infinitive in the direction of the acceleration. These are in the center of the Galaxy and has the gravity to hold a Galaxy that may be 200 light years across. and according to the formulas that is infinity gravity. The universe may not go forever but it is so huge we will never know the difference.

Answer 5

Current knowledge strongly indicates the existence of multiple universes - collectively termed 'the multiverse'. According to leading physicist Michio Kaku (read 'Parallel Worlds') there are an infinite number of universes. So, if you go to Vegas and put all your money on a single bet, you will probably lose. BUT another 'you' in another universe will DEFINITELY win. You'll be poor here, but a zillionaire there! If you don't believe me, try it!

Answer 6

Heh.


Noone knows the answer to this question ;)


Our universe is not infinite. It is most definitely finite!

What lays beyond it? Infinite 'space'? A higher dimension of space? More universes in other dimensions?


Who knows. The most likely answer however is that other universes extend indefinitely out into an infinite space of energy.

Answer 7

The technical answer, based only -- you understand -- on my readings of folks like Stephen Hawking and Brian Greene -- is that the question is cosmologically meaningless. There's no "beyond" the universe, and no "before" its creation.

Hawking likes to use a globe to help answer these sorts of questions: There's nothing more "north" than the north pole, and nothing more "south" than the south pole. Asking what's south of the south pole is meaningless, and the universe is structured in such a way that asking what's outside of it (or before it) is similarly meaningless.

Not easy to imagine, but there you have it.

Answer 8

You know what i would like to believe that there is other planets out there with other life on them. How sad to think that we could be the only living forms in the entire universe and beyond. I think there has to be something else out there, just not sure what...

Answer 9

Good question! Probably more than we can even comprehend! I feel certain that we will one day realize that there are other planets that have people on them. Hope it wasn't Pluto. Bet those Plutonians are pissed!

Another good "movie bit" to watch (like your reference to Men in Black [good one!]) is the beginning of the movie Contact, with Jodie Foster and Matt McCaughnahey. Check it out if you get a chance. Good movie, if you haven't seen it. Explores this very question.

Answer 10

According to Einsteinthe Universe is finite.Not in finite.
What is beyond the Universe ,science offers no explanation. This is where men's perception ends.

Therefore to answer that question The Word of God is where we have to resort .That is The Bible.

Please note men and science have their limitations. When these limitations are recognized than this is where wisdom and knowlege begins.