Are these really the teachings of the infallible Pope of the Roman Catholic Church ??

Question

1. 'It is NECESSARY even in the present day that the Roman Catholic religion shall be held as the ONLY religion of the state TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER FORMS OF WORSHIP'

2. 'The Roman Catholic Church should be IN UNION WITH THE STATE AND THE STATE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH'

3.'The Roman Catholic Church has the power of employing force and of exercising direct and indirect temporal power'

Source - Vatican 'Syllabus of Errors' Pope Pius 9th
Officially approved teaching by the infallible teacher of the Roman Catholic Church.

The document is called 'Syllabus of Errors' because it was spelling out what the true teaching of Roman Catholic Church actually is, of which the pope is regarded as an infallible teacher. So those are the teachings to be obeyed.

The doctrine of the Pope being infallible in his teachings is, itself, binding of ALL Roman Catholics under penalty of excommunication. And all teachings of the papacy are said to be based on the bible plus on tradition. So the fact that Pope Pius 9th died 100 years ago has nothing to do with it. These doctrines are official teachings of the infallible papacy,

4. 'The Roman pope cannot and does not need to reconcile himself to, or agree with, Progress, Liberalism and Modern Civilization.' (Section 80 - 'Syllabus of Errors' Papal Encyclical, Vatican).

5. Papal infallibility -

'If any shall say that the Roman Pope has the office merely of direction and not full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the Universal Church not only in things belonging to faith and morals....let him be anathema - papal definitions of the Roman Pontiff are IRREFORMABLE OF THEMSELVES and not from the consent of the church'. (Council of Rome, 1870 pp.114-119)

(Any Roman Catholic who doubts the infallibility of Papal teaching is in the wrong church according to the above).

Nobody has ever said or suggested the pope is infallible in everything he says or does. The dogmas specifically say he is only infallible in matters of church teaching. I The Council of Rome specifically said that what is taught by the papacy in matters of faith is not reversible (as is stated above).

These papal teachings are in black and white. They are not negotiable whether lots of people are ignorant of them or Catholics decide to ingore them. They remain official teachings to this day. There are simply no papal teachings that have ever contradicted them or have ever reversed them. If those teachings are no longer valid let it be shown here with references to support such a view.. Otherwise they surely remain official dogmas.

Answer 1

I, a Catholic, have never seen this document.

So I've never been asked to obey anything like this.

The only rules I've ever promised to obey as a Catholic were those set forth by Jesus Christ in the Bible.

Pope Pius IX was born in 1792 and died in 1878. Many changes have been made since then, as the Catholic Church does try to adapt to the society it lives in.

With the end of the Papal States in 1870, Pope Pius IX was the last Pope to hold temporal powers.

Infallibility of the Pope is exercised ONLY when he is stating doctrine which has been given to us by Jesus Christ Himself.

Answer 2

If it's called the "Syllabus of Errors" put together by Pope Pius IX then I sort of wonder if it's the Catholic Church's teachings period, or if what's being cited here are excerpts from "genuine" "Errors" that the Catholic Church is responding to and clarifying, i.e., that it isn't teaching that, but rather, these are what's being conceived as being taught rather than what really the teachings are. If these are it than that's it. But I'd think a person needs to read the whole source to get the context around what these three cites are directed at and if there's any counterpoint to them in that writing. If that's it then that it's it but if there are counterpoints to them in it then there are counterpoints.

Answer 3

Not everything a Pope writes or says is infallible.

The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope is infallible at closely defined times.

The Pope is only infallible when he, in union with the body of bishops, solemnly teaches that a doctrine as true.

This comes from the words of Jesus to Peter (the first Pope) and the Apostles (the first bishops), "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matthew 18:18) and "He who hears you hears me" (Luke 10:16).

At all other times the Pope can be just as sinful as you and me and be in need of forgiveness.

With love in Christ.

Answer 4

These are all the pious wishes of a religion. The Hindus say,'Krinvanto Visham Aryam' the Muslims say,'The crescent and the star would rule the world. When Roman catholicism is not operaive even among Christian nations with so many offshoots the Popes messages could only be seen as mere pious wishes of a patriarch.

Answer 5

the Catholic Church is not really liked that much on this web site.
Your really going to get it probably.
They are a rich organization made for rich people.
There philosphecys are out dated and obsolete.
There traditions are not scriptural. Most are handed down from pagan beliefs. Used torture to make converts among the Indians.
This is home of the 7 tribes, Indians don't like the Catholic church.

Answer 6

The catholic church is not infallible. No church is infallible. Only God is. But, before you attack the catholic church, don't forget its a lot better than other religions like, oh, maybe Islam, that teaches it's actually alright to kill someone simply because they are not Muslim. (That's right out of the Koran, second Surrah.)

Answer 7

Wow. Interesting info. As far as "infallible" goes, I note that your source is entitled "Syllabus of Errors."

Answer 8

The pope is NOT infallible. Only God is.

Answer 9

No I think they are plagirised!!

Answer 10

you are beeing silly