What kind of proof is there that the Iraqi war was been fought for reasons that aren't noble?

Question

Specifics would be awesome!

Answer 1

the oil revenues will pay for the war-Rumsfeld
greeted as liberators,, with flowers-Cheney
insurgency is in last throws- Cheney
mushroom cloud-Rice
WMD-Bush
Saddam tortured his own people in the 80's,,,,,
there are dictators torturing their own people right now, like N
Korea
are lies noble

Answer 2

The current goals are to help Iraq establish a new government. Sure, let's grant that as a noble goal.

Why we went to Iraq in the first place aren't relevant. Let's get past the first place. We went over there. Can't change that now. We deposed Saddam. Few argue that was a bad thing. We toppled the old government. Done. The question is, what are we still doing there years after "Mission Accomplished".

The problem isn't the goals. Regardless of what we may be attempting to gain, the means we're using to accomplish the goals are highly wasteful of both resources and American lives. And from any perspective, stupid means are not a good way to achieve any goals. Whether those goals are noble or not.

Answer 3

noble is a big word.You are looking for ignoble reasons and I guess that would mean immoral or nasty reasons.

Start from the initial facts.

there were 3 reasons given by the administration for the war.

Weapons of mass destruction:The administration believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Saddam was a ruthless dictator who had previously had WMD and had used them against his own people. He had invaded 2 neighbour states and threatened the other countries of the region. If he controlled Saudi Arabia and Kuwait he would represent a threat to the world oil supply. He had ejected the Un inspectors who were looking for WMD . The CIA, the French intelligence service and several others thought it likely that he had WMD. He told his own generals and hinted to other arab countries that he had WMD.

In the end it turned out there were no WMD. Going to war over something that turned out to be incorrect is bad intelligence and bad judgement. Bad judgement does not equate to immorality, evil etc.

Those who argue this is immoral say that the administration knew there was no WMD and used it as an excuse. That would qulalify as "ignoble", the evidence of the various investigations and commissions does not support this conclusion.

Because Zarqawi was an agent of al Quaida and he spent some time in Iraq it was feared that Iraq might assist the terrorists against the US., since both Al Quaida and Sadaam hated the US.
While there was evidence [since corroborated] that Zarqawi did in fact visit with officials in Iraq, It was thin at the time, there was plenty of evidence that sadaam was wary of al Quaida. It looked more like wanting to believe a connection existed with 9/11 on slim evidence than a reasonable conclusion. It seems clear that Iraq had no part in 9/11. Using an emotional issue and stretching the evidence to support it doesn't look too noble.

the third reason given was to rid Iraq of a ruthless dictator, give freedom to Iraqis and permit them to become an Arab democracy in the middle east. Those, who will have none of anything "noble", say this ;noble' objective was introduced after the war began. In fact the President stated this among his reasons at the outset. It is also argued that it is an impossible goal, the govt knew this, and so it was merely for show. Since we have had three elecdtions in Iraq and an elected parliament and govt it loooks like it was sincere.

Aside from thje reasons given by the adminstration for the war, to which they have remained steadfast, less "noble" reasons are imputed.

The favorite is to steal Iraq oil. While concern about oil supply was undoubtedly a part of the consideration in going to war. It was never to 'steal' oil, but concern with being freely able to purchase it on the world market unimpeded by a dictator with political motives to use the oil weapon.

the evil reasons go on from there into numerous and unlikely conspiracy theories..

to make oil companies rich,? to help out Bush's oil friends? to enable Bush to get reelected, to ultimately make Bush a dictator destroying the freedom of Americans. Most of these don't stand up to rational consideration.

We seem to forget in these theories that Bush will only be President for the next 2 1/2 years, and will have little authority for 2 of those years.. Conspiring to be a dictator is a non starter. While it is rational and sensible; to question the various security laws and regulations to be sure they do not infringe needlessly on our freedom, stretching it into a massive conspiracy to set up a dictatorship goes too far.

I think the arguments should not be about 'ignoble reasons', but rather judgement and competence.

For instance would it be noble now to abandon the fledgling Iraq democracy to civil war because the task is more difficult than was antici;pated. Dropping the "noble " concept of Iraqi democracy, however, it can be argued that American interests could be furthered by abandoning our Iraqi friends.

finally there may be noble causes for war but conducting a war is hardly noble in itself.

Answer 4

Well you can start with the fact that the President and his people lied repeatedly for months about Hussein having WMDs. If a president lies about his extramarital sex affairs and gets impeached, what should happen to a president who lies to start a war?

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For those interested in 9/11, the Iraq war, etc. check out this website: http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11timeline60pg
It's a time line of events surrounding 9/11 from the 70's to the present. Each entry is referenced with articles in the main stream media. No theories, just facts.

Answer 5

Iraqi war was fought for no noble reasons. We have no business there. Our men and women died there for nothing.

Answer 6

Senate finds no al-Qaida-Saddam link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060909/ap_on_go_co/iraq_report

Doubts Cast on Efforts to Link Saddam, al-Qaida http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0303-01.htm

Report: No WMD stockpiles in Iraq
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/

Answer 7

We were told they had WMD. Not true. Valerie Plame's husband reported that to Cheney before the war. and instead of admitting it, they breeched Plame's security ID at the CIA. They are liars and war mongers.

Answer 8

Didn't you read that one article by that one guy that said that this one person told another guy that Bush was wrong.



Noble....we got rid of an evil man....the majority of Iraqs people are happy they are going to have freedom when this is all over, according to people who have been there....They are happy Saddam is gone...now we have to stay and not leave them behind to fend for themselves...we have to finish what we started.

Answer 9

the reasons have changed so often, it's hard to know what the war is

Answer 10

I'm glad you chose this day to wake up kyle! Because today, i'm in a good mood of shareing and my word look!!!

http://www.politicalstrategy.org/2003_03_10_weblog_archive.htm

http://www.bushwatch.com/iraqevidence.htm

http://liesofbush.com/iraq-Lies.shtml

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html

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