When we look out into the night sky, how can the light we see be "older" than the "Intrinsic Universal Us"?

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This question has NOTHING to do with any God, just so I'm clear on this point.

Juble

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No worries God will forgive you for being stupid LOL

Answer 1

Your question, if I understand it correctly, is of a very mind bending topic and can only be semi answered with some very complex ideas and theories. I'm assuming that by "intrinsic universal us" you are referring to the product of the "big bang." If that is the case, then the answer is that light is one of the products of the big bang and is part of the "intrinsic universal us."

If by "intrinsic universal us" you are talking about consciousness, then it is possible (in theory) to see light that is older. Explanation: If you observe a photon that was emitted from a source more light years away than years ago that life came into being, then you are looking at a photon older than "us."

Another idea, that in theory one would be able to look far enough out into space to be able to detect the first instance of light should only be possible if that light has been acted upon in such a way that it is not traveling in a linear path directly away from the center of the universe and was reflected or bent in its path back to us to be detected. I don't see how that is possible and I would be interested to hear theories on how it would be.

The theory of the big bang is that before there was matter there was only quantum energy (which has no regard for time and location) Science is just now beginning to be able to detect quantum energy. The idea is that matter is made up of organized quantum energy. The special thing about light is that it is believed to be the boundary between matter and energy. It boarders on physics and quantum physics and has characteristics of both. logically it follows that light would have been the first thing to come into physical existence at "the big bang" and would therefore be the first thing at the edge of the universe. The reason why nothing travels faster than the speed of light is because, from a quantum point of view, light is actually barely traveling at all. Speed is defined as distance over time. An object traveling faster than the speed of light would be outside of the realm of time and location and therefore cannot be traveling (as with quantum energy). It follows that it is not possible for anything to be outside of that outer edge of light at the edge of the universe and that light cannot be acted upon by something that isn't there.

Personal Observation:
For those who believe in a creator, it is difficult not to notice that cutting edge physics supports an existence outside of the physical plane, the sequence of creation (light then matter then life), etc.

Answer 2

This question belongs in 'Spiritualism.'

Nevertheless, it is an interesting question...

We can not know the answer. We, the Universal Us, is a product of the Universe. The Universe evolved to the point where the union of matter and energy became love, and in its contemplation of the Universe, love became Us.

Now, we look up at the age-old Universe in wonder, and return its love. Perhaps love came before the Universe. Perhaps love was a distillation of the time and weight of a billion lost suns.

;-D After the Universe created several trillion galaxies, of every conceivable kind, we became a part of it. Appreciate the relationship. We are stardust.

Answer 3

Einstein stated that you cant ACCELERATE a mass/particle to the speed of light.

He did state that objects already traveling at the speed of light move in waves and that if you were to ride these waves your spacial properties, and time are not constant. (think of it as a non-accelerated frame of ref. ie newton)

I would conclude that the physics of light have yet to be studied.

On another note your phrase "Intrinsic Universal Us" is rather quite stimulating and thanks for the opportunity to respond.

Answer 4

Ah, Godphobic ha?

The time it takes light to travel to your "Intrinsic Frontal Lobe" equates to you observing past events.

Simple enough?