It probably would never happen, but consider this scenario:
A starting pitcher has a lead of less than 3 runs in the 8th inning. He is moved to first and a reliever comes in and finishes the inning, maybe to face a left handed hitter who is a tough out. The starting pitcher, who was moved to first, is moved back to pitch the ninth inning and gets the final 3 outs. Would he get a win AND a save? If not, what would his decision be?
2006-09-13 05:16:32 · 12 answers · asked by clone1973 5 in Sports ➔ Baseball
No, the pitcher who gets the save in Major League Baseball must: A. Not be the pitcher who started the game. B. Be the last pitcher to appear in the game. C. enter the game with no more than a 3 run lead OR Pitch effectively for 3 complete innings OR enter the game with the tying run on base, at bat, or on deck.
If you enter the game with the lead and hold it you can get the save but not the win. If you enter the game with a lead and lose it but then regain it you get a BS(blown save) and the win. But there is no way to get both.
In your scenerio (double switch) the pitcher has not left the game and therefore is not considered to be in a relief role when he returns to the mound.
2006-09-13 05:30:10 · answer #1 · answered by john c 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Good question. The answer to your first question is no. If I'm reading the rule book correctly, the starting pitcher would get the win, but no save. According to the Official Major League Rules Book, a reliever cannot be credited with a save if he is the winning pitcher (see rule 10:20, condition 2 below).
SAVES FOR RELIEF PITCHERS
10.20 Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
(a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
(b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or
(c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.
2006-09-13 12:36:55 · answer #2 · answered by CatoCt3 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Absolutely. The University of Miami did it once in 1993 or something. I was actually at the game. The starting pitcher was removed in the 7th inning, winning 8-1. In the ninth, the vistors came back to make it 8-6, with a runner at 1st and 1 out. They brought the starting pitcher back (he went to RF after he was pulled) and he got the last out on a double play.
He was awarded with the win & the save in the same game.
Now the official scorer might have been wrong, but that is what it showed. 2 pitchers pitched after he came out.
2006-09-13 13:53:44 · answer #3 · answered by brianwerner1313 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Your scenario is very interesting. Although I do not believe it ever happened in baseball history, I wonder what if, just for fun, manager would do that in a meaningless game. I am not sure that baseball forbids any player to rotate back and forth from or to any other position as long as he remains in the lineup. On the other hand, practically speaking, would a manager really allow one of his starters to pitch 7 or 8 innings, then stop pitching for an inning or 20 minutes and then re-appear to pitch 15-20 more extra pitches? It might not be practical for the pitcher's arm to be used like that.
2006-09-14 01:37:27 · answer #4 · answered by Jeffrey M 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The scenario you put forth is possible but it would never happen. Especially consider the fact that the pitcher's arm has probably gone "cold," no manager who values his job would ever put the starting pitcher BACK onto the mound after playing a position in the field. I do remember Ron Guidry going in to play outfield back in the late 70's though. That was interesting.
2006-09-13 12:31:51 · answer #5 · answered by sdmf4u2000 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No way.....unless he was the starting pitcher and when relieved he stay in the field playing another position...ie first base.....and later in the game he comes back in to save his own game.....but once he leaves the field he can't come back on......probably has happended!!!
2006-09-13 12:21:16 · answer #6 · answered by Mickey Mantle 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, this is possible but very rare. In most cases they would have taken him out all together unless there were issues with the first base men. It is a very weird situation.
2006-09-13 12:25:23 · answer #7 · answered by Barry G 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I never heard of it
2006-09-13 12:20:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
What if a RP comes in and pitches a flawless bottom of the 8th in a tie game (3 - 3)...his team scores in the top of the 9th to take the lead...that same RP comes in and pitches a flawless bottom of the 9th...seems as though he would get the win and the save.
2014-05-29 22:06:15 · answer #9 · answered by kurt k 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
nope
2006-09-13 12:24:50 · answer #10 · answered by Fabio 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋