If the Democrats succeed in handing victory to the terrorists in Iraq, what would the global repercussions be?

Question

- How will it affect the Middle East and Southwest Asia?
- How will it affect the growth of terrorist organizations?
- What will be the effect on our negotiations with North Korea and Iran?
- Will Western Civilization be safer or less safe?
- How will it affect the reformist movements in the Middle East?
- Do the Democrats care about any of this, or is regaining political prominence the end that justifies their means?

Gee thanks cracker for proving my point about liberals/Dems not being serious or knowledgable about the ramifications of their actions and words.

planksheer, care to address the 'safer or not' issue with any facts?

mymadsky - no terrorists in Iraq? Stability in the M.E.? The 'real' WoT in Afghanistan? Sheesh. 0-for-3. Saddam and his regime were terrorist - mostly against their own people - but terrorist nonetheless. And the facts are they had contacts with terrorists and supported terrorists.
-Stability? No, not really stable, and it was a hotbed of terrorism, with the more dangerous jihadists gaining greater power
-Afghanistan? Perhaps you've missed 5 years of fact, but Afghanistan was not the only place where terrorists are. Our president, our Congress voted to fight terrorists and state sponsors of terrorism, not just Osama and al Qaeda.

Answer 1

shut up ya dumb a*ss repuke...get a life.

Answer 2

We are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation in Iraq. We have destabilized the government in that country. If we pull out now the country will surely degenerate into a civil war, which will probably last for years, and we will be blamed for it. On the otherhand we can remain in the country until such a time as the duly elected Iraqi government can stand on it's own. This is more preferable, but we will have endure more claims of imperialism, and nation building by the world.
Stable democracies in the Middle East will aid reform movements. The alternative which is anarchy or despotism aids nothing, and seeks to crush reformists movements.
The eventual outcome in Iraq will not have a direct effect on international terrorism. Win or lose their will still be terrorists, they will still hate the western culture, and they will still be bent on destroying it.
The war in Iraq has made us safer in the United States. This is because a majority of terrorists resources have been dedicated to that fight. The result is less available resources for attacks on America directly.
As to your question about North Korea and Iran. Pulling out of Iraq prematurely will once again reinforce the impression that we don't have the will for the fight. Kill a few Americans, or make it a little too hard and we will run. This perception has damaged our credibility in the world since the days of Vietnam because it is a recurring pattern we are showing the world. If countries perceive us as weak it damages our ability to effectively manage foreign policy. We do not have to trample on the world, but they do need to respect our military might.
I think most mainstream democrats understand this fact, but I also believe that the leadership has been usurped by the extreme left wing of the party. The extremists currently appear to be controlling the purse strings, and as the money goes, so goes the will of the party leaders. Having siad that though, even if the Democrats do regain control of the house I do not see them pulling out. They understand what is at stake, and they will find some kind of excuse to prolong it until they can bow out gracefully so as not to be perceived as weak. I am thinking something along the lines of Nixon's peace with honor explanation in Vietnam.

Answer 3

Don't be a political hack. The Democrats are NOT about "handing victory to the terrorists", and this grotesque political spin fools no one. Fact is, Iraq was NEVER about terrorism, our invasion inspired terrorists to enter the country, but they're clearly a small part of the problem there. It's mostly a Sunni-Shiite Civil War. And if we leave, the terrorists are NOT coming here. The Iraqi people certainly aren't! Hey-- the war is OVER-- WE WON! It's now an occupation, and we have no business being an occupier. They don't want us there. We need to get out of the way. The Bush Adm. says as they stand up, we'll stand down. Well, tjhey won't stand up UNTIL we stand down.

Answer 4

Your question, like so many others from the right is flawed. The Democrats do not want to "hand victory over to the terrorists," they want to hand victory over to the Iraquis, most of who see themselves fighting against an occupying force and each other for political influence over their government (e.g. a civil war).

But to try to answer your question anyway:

It will definately not unsettle the Middle East any more than it has already been unstabilized.

Terrorists are such a small portion of the insurgency in Iraq that it should be negligable compared to the growth we are allowing in Afghanistan because we have taken our troops out of there (where they were and still are - unlike Iraq).

We will actually have the ability to threaten military action against Korea and Iran since we'll actually have troops in the area that we can send where needed (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, etc.)

Western Civilization (mainly the US) will be safer since we would get back the National Guard and their equipment where it can be used to keep us safe.

You're stupid if you think that Democrats want more deaths and destruction just to get a bit of political gain. I, and every Democrat I've talked to, would rather George Bush's administration get it right for once and do something that actually helps our country - there's enough policy difference to debate, we don't need the criminal negligence we've seen them have in Iraq and Katrina. We'll use it, since it proves how wrong the administration is, but we don't really need it.

Answer 5

your making HUGE ASSUMPTIONS based on your opinion...

mainly that Democrats would hand terrorists Iraq on a silver platter when in fact they want a timetable for withdraw...

why do you think that our military couldn't stabilize Iraq on a timetable? do you think the military is that incompetent that they couldn't do it?

I don't think that... I think they've been training troops for a few years and it probably wouldn't take much more to stabilize the military....

I mean if we have done SO LITTLE over the past 2-3 years that a few terrorists could take over a country so easily... that MEANS WE DID A REALLY POOR JOB... have we basically been DOING NOTHING FOR THE PAST 2-3 YEARS TO THE POINT THAT IF WE LEFT IT WOULD BE LIKE WE WERE NEVER THERE?

you must think the military is doing a horrible job and that Iraq loves terrorists... I think you're vastly underestimating both... you may say I'm an optimist, but if you listen to Rummy, it sounds like they are doing super great and have many troops ready for war, certainly more troops than any terrorist force could take... is Rummy lying?

Answer 6

There were no terrorists in Iraq until we destabilized the area. SO your whole premise is Why should Moderates support the GOP after they just invaded a sovereign nation based on the false testimony of ONE CIA paid informant? They took a stable area made it less stable, a hub for terrorism, and a death trap for our soldiers while taking troops away form the real war on terror in Afghanistan.
So my question for the GOP is this WHY the hell did you not THINK about:
-How will it affect the Middle East and Southwest Asia?
- How will it affect the growth of terrorist organizations?
- What will be the effect on our negotiations with North Korea and Iran?
- Will Western Civilization be safer or less safe?
- How will it affect the reformist movements in the Middle East?

Before they got into this fricking mess? You have two years to clean it up- two years to clean up YOUR mess!!!!!

Answer 7

When Saddam was in power, there was no terrorism in Iraq.

The USA and their murderous foreign policy has done more to activate and encourage terrorism than anything else.

Don't confuse Western Civilization with the USA. I'm sure that Sweden, for example, a country with the highest standard of living in the world, isn't worried about terrorism. You know why? It's because they don't go around killing people, and telling them it's in the name of freedom.

The USA is not a civilised country. It is barbaric.

Hate to say it, buddy, but the USA needs to be taught some manners. Every bully gets theirs, eventually.

By the way, I am British, before anyone tells me to "love it or leave it".

Answer 8

You dont have to worry about the Democrats doing anything
Your boy Bush and the rest of that Emerald City crowd have already given Iraq on a silver platter to Iran! Saddam had this in check and now for God only knows what reason we have upset the apple cart.
Its time to butt out and stop fu ck ing up the world base on greed and shady intentions.

Answer 9

I'm pretty sure "the Democrats" will never be able to hand victory to the terrorists in Iraq. Since we pretty much don't have any say in anything anymore, as the US moves towards a much more 1 party system.

I don't think it would be a good idea to pull out now. But it sure would be a good idea to maybe, you know, train some kind of Iraqi army, so that the kids that we sent there at age 18 don't come back as age 80.

Answer 10

if the US would keep their concerns here at home in check they wouldn't have time to worry about the middle east or anyone else
republicans need to quit trying to monopolize the oil situation
they have already lost the election because of katrina and 9-11
we would be better off as a nation if they put their energies and monies in to things like alternative fuel and jobs and make sure we got food and water for the coming way of life and its not going to be pretty

Answer 11

as along as there is war , aggression, and occupation being waged against people in the middle east...there will always be terrorism! its a sad reality. there is no other solution but peace. peace (not war) will deminish the growth of terrorist organizations in the middle east. the same thing happend with the IRA and england...same goes to spain and the sepratisits.
through peace equality and recociliation...security will prevail in the world.