If I lied and you didn't think it was right would you hate me? If I stole something and you thought it was wrong would you hate me? If I drank too much would you hate me? If I lusted after another woman would you hate me? If I gambled my money away would you hate me?
For all of these you probably wouldn't hate me but you might not agree with what I did. I wouldn't call you a hater but would realize that you didn't agree with what I did.
So if I don't agree with someone having sexual relations with someone of the same sex, then why am I called a "hater"?
2006-09-12 14:44:20 · 26 answers · asked by waiting4u2believe 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Unfortunately this is probably because of people's tendency to try and slap a simple label on a complex issue. Particularly when we can't come up with a logical or substantial argument for something we start name calling: queer, fairy, *****... Have you caught yourself using these terms? You become a "hater" when you cross the line of simply disapproving and enter the state of casting judgment and infringing someone else's rights. Its okay not to agree with me that apples are the best fruit. Perhaps you like oranges. It is not however okay to discriminate against me in public accommodation, educational opportunity, employment or housing because I eat apples. This of course is an oversimplification because homosexuality is not a simple choice, there is a biochemical component that cannot be denied. But the same societal principle applies. We each need to watch our own application of labels first before we worry about how others apply them.
2006-09-12 15:04:48 · answer #1 · answered by Magic One 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Well, it kinda works like this...
If I don't agree with someone having long legs and believe they are amoral for refusing to conform their natural size to average height, should tall people have a problem with me? And, if I believe that employers should be legally justified in terminating employment simply because long leg folks do not choose to make their size less than it would otherwise be, should "those people" be dismayed with me? And if I believe that recognizing a marriage contract between two long legged people would be sinful and degrade society and harm everyone elses average height children, am I righteous to refuse those deviant people the same legal equality as everyone else?
With all the science continuously supporting that homosexuality is not an intellectual choice but an integral part of a person from pre-puberty or more likely birth, I do not understand why there is such a persistent belief that we choose to be the way we naturally are.
I do not hate you. I am, however, very hurt and angry about the free wheeling discrimination LBGT people live with everyday.
2006-09-13 00:36:37 · answer #2 · answered by Alex62 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
If people made a habit of beating the ever-living snot out of liars, I'd call it hate. If people insisted on using slurs for alcoholics (which, some people do), I'd call that hate and ignorance. If people made a seperate class of citizens; a seperate hierarchy of rights for people who gambled, I'd call that oppression. I'll say that "hate" isn't always the most accurate word, but oppression is definitely there. People don't always get that you can have racism, heterosexism, and all kinds of nasty attitudes without actually HATING the subject of those attitudes. So: "hater" may or may not apply, depending on what exactly you've said (and how you've said it), but there's at very least a certain amount of ignorance and privilidge going on.
2006-09-16 03:32:43 · answer #3 · answered by Atropis 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hate is a destructive emotion. People may dislike your examples or take you to task for them, hate is a little strong.
When I discovered what my late partner's vile family had done with her remains, I was in a blind killing rage. It was at her graveside when I read "UNKNOWN TO GOD" I swear I could have struck the woman a lethal blow. They had been insulting and bigoted since we moved in together.
Months after the above incident I suffered a complete breakdown.
Hate? Get away from all thoughts of it.
Rose P.
I do not excuse my behavior in any way. I wish to forgive those people and myself but my prayers are just wicked whispers.
2006-09-13 01:04:22 · answer #4 · answered by rose p 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Those things that you mention, your attempt at "moralizing" falls far short of the reality of the situation.
Whom I love is none of your concern.
It does not affect you whatsoever.
If you feel that for YOU loving someone of the same sex is wrong, don't you do it then.
I do not ask you to respect Mabon, take the day off work and celebrate, come to the next Coven meeting, Honor the Goddess in ritual, nor do I belittle your CHOICE not to do so or insist that you are disrespecting others by not doing so. Those are MY beliefs, if you truly expect me to respect your beliefs although i do not follow them, you will respect mine, my right to have them, and my right to live my life without interference(and that does include casting judgement) from you and Your beliefs.
Your God is not my God.
Your principles are not my principles.
If you do not wish, to have the rocks thrown back at you, do not stoop to pick up the first stone.
2006-09-12 22:15:13 · answer #5 · answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
all the things you mentioned are not about your personality or whom you love.
They are also things that hurt others.
If I sat here and continually told you that having sex with someone was wrong and continually told you you are not worthy of equal treatment by the government because of who you loved you would be offended. You would likely call me a hater too and find my behavior mean and offensive.
You can not compare your list of activities to my life, love, respect, and sexual preference.
We don't need you to agree with our choice of who we love, we only want to be treated equally!
I don't hate you either, I feel sorry for you that you don't have enough of a life to leave us in peace.
2006-09-12 22:02:18 · answer #6 · answered by chocolate sundae 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Clearly, in here there are judgments against theft, lying, drinking, lusts, and gambling. These are moral issues. We have to diferentiate between judgments and prejudices.
To use that word, hatred is vey strong. It could be more of an intolerance or prejudice against homosexuality or lesbianism. Although in general, they are not harming anybody. When the welfare of the public is at risk, that's when it should become a major issue. Until then, live and let live.
2006-09-12 21:53:33 · answer #7 · answered by rosieC 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Because if you keep telling them that is wrong and that you hate what they do then it is simply wrong.
You have also wrongly compared homosexuality with lies, alcoholics, stealing etc.
Different things, from different categories. The things you stated above hurt either you or others. Homosexuality doesnt. It is something between two people.
Now run to your mom and ask her to give you a better argument. ta ta
2006-09-12 21:51:27 · answer #8 · answered by Nostromo 5 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Anyone who would call you a hater simply because you disagree is way off base. All of us have our disagreements with others on some level. It's when you inflict physical, mental or verbal abuse on others that the disagreement rises to the level of hate.
2006-09-12 22:02:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
i would only call you a hater if you tried to tell me that i shouldn't be the way i am. you can disagree all you want. this is america. a hater hates.
2006-09-12 22:53:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋