Recently I've notice that when people on Yahoo Answers in the GLBT ask or answers a question; and uses the word (term) G0YZ; a particular pack of wolves inundate them with hate messages; and or thumbs down (even unrelated questions)? Why can't we all get along and share our experience, regardless rather or not we agree? If we don't like the Christians bashing those in this group, why show hypocrisy by doing it to others? Isn’t it just obvious or micavillian?
2006-09-12 12:23:51 · 13 answers · asked by Swordfish 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Nostromo's entry is a prime example of the hate and division. In as much; g0yz don't hate feminine men; or gays. We simply offer a different avenue for guys who would feel much more comfortable as a g0y, than gay. Because we don't fit into a box of narrow-mindedness you once again, spout off as a truculent bull in a china store. I believe you have proven my point!
2006-09-12 13:06:47 · update #1
Nostromo in your attempt attack my question and yes creditability; you yourself have once again; inadvertently proven my point. Your hypocrisy is almost entertaining; with one exception. Your fallacy argument aggregates rhetoric; that you, yourself find offensive. When you are ready to accept concept that men who call themselves g0y; have just as much rights to liberty, justice and the pursuit of happiness with the buds and you do then we can sit down, and discuss other aspects of the g0y life. However; that day will never come, because you have become what you despise the most: a hateful bigot, full of rage and anger and hurt from being dejected, rejected, and ignored.
2006-09-12 19:30:50 · update #2
I don't know. Personally I don't let hate into my head...it is a waste of energy and accomplishes absolutely nothing..The sad part is --I believe we all COULD get along..if everybody just tried to a little more. I'm gradually coming to the conclusion that those who hate the most are the people who like themselves the least. make sense to anyone?
2006-09-12 16:24:49 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Bravo Nostramo!
You covered a majority of the points quite well.
You did leave out a few of the minor points such as on their websights and several of the comments they mentioned that they feel their mutual sexual gratification was Biblical simply because it doesn't include anal sex, yet many openly admit to being in relationships/marriages with women. Infidelity, be it with someone of the same sex or opposite, regardless as to whether or not the Wife/Girlfriend knows about it or not, is NOT a Biblical Principle and even I as a Pagan know that, so it firmly places them in the hypocrite category.
Very simply, their changing of the "name" trying to distance themselves as being "better" is nothing more than homophobic reactions and simple cowardice/denial.
You aren't "kosher". You aren't "manly men". You aren't "biblical". At the end of the day, when everything is said and done, you are just as gay as the rest of us. It's time to put away the childish games, boys. I've seen drag queens, transvestites, transgendered individuals and all the rest and you know what? They are all more man than any g0y will ever be, simply because they are, unashamedly themselves and I'm proud as a gAy man to stand beside them.
2006-09-12 20:53:57 · answer #2 · answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Goyz is a new term that I had never heard about before coming onto this site. Still, I will give you my take on this.
In short: Sexual behavior, especially in men, follows a range from totally straight to totally gay. There's a lot in between. That's the way we men are, as a group. I have found that there are a certain minority of gay men who will not accept this fact about their own gender, that there can be such variation in human sexual expression (bisexuality, just oral, occasional contact with men or whatever form of male sexual expression you can think of). That's perhaps a large part of why you see such a denunciation of goyz on this site from certain gay men.
The other thing is that in general, gay men do not approve of people cheating on their spouses or partners. It seems that goyz are thought to do this -- having sexual relations with male acquaintances even though they are married. It sort of looks like a bunch of bisexual men giving themselves an excuse to step outside the marriage because they do not consider non-anal sex as committing adultery - but gays, straights, and perhaps most bisexuals do.
2006-09-13 03:39:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Although I can agree with you that there are several harsh answers to Religious types, you must remember the adage "as you sow, so shall you reap" Sadly many Christians invite the spite they receive, by their own actions, be they words or deeds, they have shown not only a lack of respect but also a hatred that is deep and angry. Gays should not respond with anger but it is difficult given the visceral hate that comes from those who profess to not hate at all. Would you ask a Jew to be kindly to a Neo-Nazi or a Racist Skinhead? Doubtful. It's the same hate just a different name.
2006-09-12 19:32:51 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Everyone deserves respect unless they do something despicable of course. But all questions should be answered with respect even when there is disagreement. Some of the people asking or others that reply to an answer become pretty nasty because they disagree with what was said. I've been called a few ugly names but I just roll with it.
2006-09-12 19:35:53 · answer #5 · answered by papricka w 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
OK, I think that I am a part to this question since I was a bit rude to your friend today, and also it was really irrelevant to his question.
But, I am sorry mate, but all you guys do -or- most of what you do is advertising your website and the g0y movement.
Now OBVIOUSLY people will disagree with you...it just needs common sense, and will say bad things because you are no less irritating than Christians...Its just one level above...While Christians bash the whole gay movement you bash a part of it...well it makes no significant difference. They say being gay you go to hell you say having anal sex you go to hell...well..mmm...Why try to change our identity just because we dont want to seem what the media shows what being gay is like, instead of trying to change the media? Trust me its not only g0ys who detest the media and the way the advertise the gay scene...
The last thing people need right now is hate and bashing within the LGBT. You really dont understand how harmful this can be and all you care about is your anal pride...Divided we fall. Well you know what? Many people dont practice anal sex and they are pretty masculine...like me and my partner. We are into cars, I love football, we go to rock concerts etc.
But by no means, this will make me hate the queens and the feminine gay people. And to be honest with you I never felt really confortable around really feminine guys..and sometimes I even talk hard about them with my partner because they can become quite annoying...But OK, if I saw one being beaten by homophobes I would go and help him.
So, whatever you feel like doing or believing into, it would be much better to keep it to yourself. You dont like anal sex? Fine, me neither. You want to change your identity? Fine also.
But please stop trying to remind us all the time that you are the macho boys and everyone else is a queer...And there is a stigma for everything. Changing tha headline doesnt change the content its the personal behaviour and character that will identify you in the end of the day.
And I also dont see why we will go to hell we are gays but not if we are g0ys. As long we cant make children, it will always be sex based and bad according to the bible. Technicality doesnt get us out of it.
Thats all for now, I will not attack any of you anymore, because who knows, you might be great guys but I will always speak my mind...And if it sounds rude..well my apologies for that, but someting written in black and white cant really show the way I make the comment..I would simply have a decent conversation with you if we talked face to face. I am no wolf lol
Excuse me people...but where is the division here? Did I spread hate with what I said? Did I just attack you? Or insulted you? I just said my opinion...why to you turn things around? On the contrary I was being defensive. Did you answer any of the things I stated above? I am sorry, but I have read what your community talks about and it is not as simple as you say it is.
OK what can I say...If this makes me a bull in a china store, then you just cant handle a debate or someone who simply disagrees with you. I really havent got any valid arguement from you guys...Did you even read what I wrote? Or you just saw many words and just decided to advertise me as an 'example' of your question...You make me laugh, and also make me feel very confident with my intelligence and ability to speak my mind.
Be what you want to be, but unfortunately you will only get critisism in here whether you like it or not. If you want to get along stop pushing people's buttons. I guess you will advertise this additional comment as a terrorist attack or something.
"Hi we are g0y and not really confortable with you guys, but lets all get along..." OK, whatever you say ...
Thanks for adding to my comments IndyT. I really challenge you now, Bearlicious, please answer about the 'biblical' being married to a woman while playing with other guys thing...Just explain to me how you justify it to be biblical...You are a grown up, say something instead of using a snoby comment.
Once again, by using some pretentious nice vocabulary Bearlicious has given no actual answer....I honestly hope you consider yourself black and not bl0ck....
See ya...
2006-09-12 19:54:36 · answer #6 · answered by Nostromo 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
You make a good point...but while we are at it, why stop there...we have transgendered, transexual, Gay, lesbian, obese gay, obese...., skinny gay, skinny...., nerd gay, nerd.... All of which are discriminated against by other gays....when will we ever learn???? There is MIGHT in number, there is MIGHT in armed resistance. We either hang together or we will be hanged apart. Good luck
2006-09-12 20:04:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I fell that is because they think they will run into alot of folks that HATE or dislike folks like they do.But it isnt like that at ALL.I find more people that r ok wit tha way people r then those who arent.Think'a bout it....
2006-09-12 20:44:55 · answer #8 · answered by sophatup 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because the idea of G0ys is pure and utter bullshit. It means that you assume EVERY gay person is into anal sex, which is not true at all. You're cowards. There is no honor in seperating yourself like that.
You're gay just like us, you're not going to escape the stigma, and there are a like of gay guys who don't like anal sex.
Acts of cowardice don't diserve my respect.
2006-09-12 21:20:55 · answer #9 · answered by Adam G 4 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Human nature?
Ethnocentrism?
Who knows? But what the heck is GOYZ?
2006-09-12 19:54:32 · answer #10 · answered by LazlaHollyfeld 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋