They don't support the criminal, they understand that there are underlying issues at stake that affect how people react in certain situations. Nor do they celebrate the deaths of police officers.
Liberals understand that almost every issue MUST be examined from a full culture perspective- nothing exists in a void.
There, I haven't been insulting. Now I'm going to be.
There's something called a college education. You might want to look into it. These days, you don't even have to be smart to attend, so there's hope for people like yourself. I love how many conservatives on this site congratulate themselves on their 'cleverness' when they spew rhetoric and hyperbole, and consider it a telling blow - never realizing that people who actually examine the issues they are so passionate about are laughing in their sleeves the whole time......
2006-09-12 08:55:34
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answered by Anonymous
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I do not feel that it this is true. Your question is indicative of the fact that you're probably only wanting an answer that either bashes liberals or, in fact, insults you.
I do believe police brutality exists and I do believe that criminals that have no moral dilemma with killing a police office exist. The truth is, the only people who really know what happened were the people who were there and we as a society should hear both sides of the story and listen with an open mind.
This liberal has experienced firsthand a relative who was a police officer that died in the line of duty. But you choose not to listen to that, you focus merely on the fact that I am a liberal. I'm not insulting you but rather expressing the impression that I got from your question, and that is that your narrow-mindedness is clouding your judgment as an American citizen.
2006-09-12 08:57:56
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answered by Pitchow! 7
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You seem to be speaking for liberals, but I don't think you've gotten this view from actually hearing what any liberal is saying.
1) our founders wrote the protections given citizens against the police power. our founders would not ratify the constitution without those protections.
Why do you think they did that?
Perhaps because they understood history and understood what people with the power of the state at their command and with no constraint on their actions do.
2) Huge numbers of people in prison ARE innocent. It has been exposed in a CA county that the public defenders assigned to the poor arrested for crimes instruct innocent people to plead guilty so they'll get less time in prison. Many people have been freed from DEATH ROW because of DNA testing.
This should suggest to you that the police should not have unlimited power over 'criminals' - as we now beyond a doubt that eve not all people convicted of crimes are actually criminals. The police should not be free to shoot people without parameters and liberals, like all good Americans, are pleased with the parameters our founders established and seek to have them recognized.
You might read the book A Rip In Heaven about a horrific double murder. The surviving victim of what was actually an attempted third murder was charged, interrogated, jailed and otherwise traumatized for the RAPE AND MURDER of his beloved cousins by cops who couldn't be bothered finding the real killers.
It is, in fact, to ensure justice is done that people like proper procedures followed. The kicker, you see, in A Rip in Heaven, is that the poor boy, delirous after days of interrogation, scared, grieving, CONFESSED to the crime. Read the book. It's awesome and eye opening.
It most states I know of the right to kill an intruder in your home is sacrosanct. I would like for you to produce one case that shows a community in uproar over a shot burglar and against the family that defended their home. Please. One case. If it's the problem you've worked yourself up to believe it is, you can certainly produce citations for five such cases.
Typically honey, it's still the rights of the accused that are short-changed. Work for justice and get peace. AND YOU ALSO WILL BE SAFER FROM YOUR GOVT.... mistaken arrests don't only happen to the other guy.
3) I always remember that Oliver North got his convictions from treasonous, world-destablizing, immoral crimes overturned on a technicality, with the help of the ACLU and all the conservatives cheered.
2006-09-12 09:05:14
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answered by cassandra 6
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Your question is so inflammatory, it is no wonder that you "bet [folks] cannot...answer without being inflammatory". Your assertions sound kind of like that old question: "When did you stop beating your wife?" The negative & accusatory basis for you question, makes it almost impossible for me to answer.
In any case, I am what you might refer to as a "liberal" (I think George Bush is a dolt & the so-called Christian Right is neither), but I do NOT believe in the things you are saying that I am SUPPOSED to believe in as a so-called liberal...In fact, I too, am outraged whenever I hear about violent criminals who get off on a technicality or whatever....
You might want to do more reading on the subject; that might help you to answer your own question. And, actually, I can strongly identify with your frustration. Good luck in your search!
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2006-09-12 09:02:10
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answered by suzanne 2
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As a conservative, but not so much as I used to be, I can tell you that your thinking is very wrong. I have many liberal friends and they are torn by the violence in this country. They care as much about the slain cop as the rest of us, but they also want to make sure that the perpetrator's rights, according to the Constitution, are protected. There are a lot of crooked politicians, judges, and people in law enforcement that shouldn't be there. As Americans, it is our duty to make sure that people in power positions do not abuse their power. It happens often, much more so that you know. Before WWII, when Hitler had his SS and then later, the Gestapos, no one spoke up or questioned their cruel and unfair activities. We need to all be wary. There are so many new laws passed each year that we could be the next mistreated "criminal".
2006-09-12 09:01:11
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answered by trainedandready 2
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I guess I probably qualify as a liberal, since I usually vote for Democrats.
So, my best non-insulting answer is this. I believe the justice to be found in any society is only as good as the people who are responsible for enforcing it, and that the same society can be judged as to its worth both by the manner in which it investigates crimes and how it treats people who are accused and/or convicted of crimes.
Judged by those standards, our society fails dismally. Our justice system is broken, badly. The number of innocent people who are sent to prison for crimes they did not commit is appalling, the number of criminals who get away with their crimes with little or no repercussions is appalling, and the willingness of those within the system to utilize it for their own gain is appalling.
You can probably characterize me as someone who cares about whether a criminal's rights are violated. You're right, I do. I also care about the cop. He/she is on the front line of our criminal justice system. I don't want to see his/her sacrifice mean nothing.
2006-09-12 09:27:40
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answered by functionary01 4
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This sounds familiar. Perhaps you are talking about that Mumia who executed the cop and asked not long after "Is that mfing cop dead?"
He claims that he was protecting his brother who was being roughed up but the brother refuses to testify to that. Twice defense attorneys had to go find him and bring him to court and twice he ran off and went into such deep hiding, that they haven't been able to find him for years. Yet liberals, including many celebrities, insist that Mumia is innocent even though these people absolutely refuse to read the court transcripts. See, they are right no matter who says otherwise.
2006-09-12 08:56:05
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answered by Anonymous
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But you insulted us many times in this question. Who said we don't care? We care about everyone, but most of all we care about civil rights. The predator, the violent offender is not on our priority list. I care about the victims and I also care about due process and civil liberties. We don't want the government doing to us what violent offenders are doing and that is abusing their power. And btw crime has steadily fallen since the 1940's. What has risen is crime reporting and public hysteria. The lowest rate of crime rise the last century was during the Clinton administration. Now, if you don't want us to attack you, quit attacking us and get your facts straight. The library is still free and still available to the public, that is until some hysterical group finds out you have the right to read what you want. Good Luck.
2006-09-12 08:58:33
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answered by -Tequila17 6
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A person who is arrested is not a criminal until they're convicted. They have rights as spelled out in the constitution that are designed to prevent the innocent from being sent to prison, or worse.
I hope my answer wasn't as insulting as your question.
2006-09-12 09:10:47
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answered by Anonymous
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Liberals don't think that way. Period.
If I heard someone killed another person, as a liberal, regardless of who the other person was, I think the killer should have a fair trial and let the courts decide justice (in theory...courts don't always work). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. It really disapoints me that people generalize ideologies like "liberal" and "conservative" to the point of accusing either party of ridiculous things.
2006-09-12 08:56:08
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answered by Anonymous
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