I fly internationally extensively.
Last week a woman with 4 Muslim men boarded a 747 they all shuffled into Business Class. The woman completely covered from head to foot in a jet black Burka with what appeared to be NO meshed eye slit even "it" looked like a spectre from hell itsefl!
The smell of cheap perfume as she passed by wafted through the entire Aircraft and I felt quizzy. the men were all dressed in western casual attire.
They all sat in separate seats in First Class even though it was obvious they were traveling together.
Six passengers 2 from First Class and 4 from Coach asked the Purser to have them removed or re-searched.
The Flight was held up for over an hour and 3/4 of the passengers deplaned and refused to fly with them! The Flight was cancelled!
Everyone that had an issued was re-routed. The Muslims begain to curse in Arabic (?) and upon re-examnation were found to have "questionable" documentation (Passports)!!
What would you do? I refused!
2006-09-12 02:34:56 · 20 answers · asked by B'klyn Barracuda 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Other - Cultures & Groups
Apparently many of you did not read the last paragraph...these individuals upon being re-checked were found to have "questionable" documentation and detained".
It is also apparent that an individual covered from from head to foot in a jet black sheet...accompanied by others all seated separately in First Class fits a pattern. And this is not the least bit suspicious to many of you?
I was traveling from Toronto to New York not Dubai..
2006-09-12 03:08:44 · update #1
I think people have the right to refuse to fly with these types of people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but I would certainly not take the chance. My life is worth more than the feelings of a few muslims.
2006-09-12 02:38:40 · answer #1 · answered by barter256 4 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I think that if a person is nervous about a fellow passenger or passengers then the nervous person should not get on the plane.
We cannot go around expecting to have people who make us nervous removed from our presence.
I made a cross country flight last month and there were several passengers who appeared middle eastern and were speaking in another language. None of us "americans" demanded that they be removed from the plane.
Everyone is searched these days, and anyone who looks different is given extra scrutiny.
2006-09-12 02:44:53 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Hi!
Maybe it is because I lived in the Middle East for a couple of years and I am just used to it, but it doesn't bother me at all to board planes where people are wearing the clothes they usually wear everyday... and the Burka is a everyday item worn by many Muslim women to protect their modesty...she would feel naked without it. To expect an Arab woman to remove it when she is on a airplane for the sole reason of making the westerners comfortable is like asking a western woman to wear only her bra and panties when she is flying...
:)
Whenever I would leave the Middle East to come back to America to see family, I would board planes were many Arab women were wearing Burka's, Abaya's, Hijabs,-- or Arab men wearing Thobes, whatever... Also, there were many Indian women wearing Saris or Punjabi Suits... I have flown a hundred times like this and nothing has ever happened...
Why should everyone in the world have to wear jeans and a tee-shirt? Or any other kind of western clothing? The world is a diverse place, not everyone has chosen to be influenced by western culture and dress so...
And not everyone from the Middle East is a terrorist.
Best Wishes...
T.
*****EDIT*****
Perhaps the four Muslim people had to sit in different seats because those were the only seats available in Business class. Perhaps they were just choosing the comfort of business class seats over being able to sit together...
Perhaps the muslim woman was traveling with her husband and two of his friends, in which case, they all would not sit together anyways... it could be considered improper for her to sit in such close proximity to a man that was not her husband or family member.
Do you know how many times I have arrived at the airport in the Middle East for a flight that was completely booked? Then the ticket agent would say, "I am sorry, but I am unable to seat you two together." All I would say is, "I need to sit next to my husband. I refuse to sit next to man who is not my husband." Next thing you know, they were shuffling people around and I was sitting on the side of the plane with only two seats... with my husband.
I once arrived at an airport where the male security guard wanted to check my luggage. I refused to let him search it (he doesn't need to be playing with my underwear). He looked around and noticed that I was traveling alone- without a male present. He then had a choice- he could let me go or find a female security guard to check my luggage. He let me go...
It is just how things are done in the Middle Eastern culture. Modesty is important! You do not compromise a women's modesty (especially if she expresses her desire to be modest), no matter how inconvenient modesty might be.
As for the questionable documentation... I have had that problem many times coming through Amstradam when heading to the US. I was married in the Middle East and there, women do not take on the last names of their husband. So everytime I would go through security, I would be held up and questioned: "Why were you in this country?" "What were you doing there?" "If you are American, why don't you have the same last name as your husband?" "Why do you have two resident Visas?" "Why doesn't this Visa have a cancel stamp? It is expired." etc. etc. etc.
Now a days, with security being the way it is, many things can make your documentation "questionable".
:)
2006-09-12 03:07:45 · answer #3 · answered by Theophania 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
i think sorry for them many times, quite on warm day while they ought to be so uncomfortable. I do think of that he's physically powerful while he says the Burka is an indication of subservience quite than non secular dedication - the muslim faith does not require that is women persons to positioned on Burkas after all. in spite of the undeniable fact that i'm undecided that I agree that Burkas ought to be banned - i think of that encroaches on the liberty of the guy and could in hassle-free terms do greater harm than solid interior the top.
2016-10-14 22:15:08 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Really people? You're so afraid of hurting someone's feelings that you'd risk your life to 'prove' you're not a "RACIST"? Sorry, but if they fit the profile --I'd trust my gut. Any sensible Muslim, although they may not like it would understand that it is the Terrorist who make us nervous. If it were short blonde women of German decent killing everyone, I wouldn't blame anyone for not getting on an airplane with me (I'd in fact drive if possible if that were the case.) And I certainly would understand being profiled. I'd invite the scrutiny.
2006-09-12 04:11:11 · answer #5 · answered by Cherie 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
I think Americans are scared of what they don't know or understand which is so not cool maybe we all should put our self in their shoe and think how they fell when every one looks at you like animal,i don't think that is right, and for the people who think all Muslims are bad people you are so wrong. As for the passengers it's so not right.This just says people are not doing their jobs and we still aren't safe if they got on the flight with questionable document,don't you think
2006-09-12 03:56:44 · answer #6 · answered by helen m 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I think it is cruel to confine animals and women. I understand the concept of modesty and think it is a good one. However, burkas are not merely a concept of "modesty."
I hate to say this, but Muslim terrorists are the majority of terrorists by a long shot. I'd be highly uncomfortable, as well. The separate seats in first class is a near dead giveaway for terrorists.
2006-09-12 03:07:17 · answer #7 · answered by writer 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
What's wrong with that? It's in their culture to wear such attire. No, I have no problems flying with them. They passed through security at the airport right? I can't believe some people can be so racially-sensitive.
I spent 1/4 of my life living in the deserts of the Middle East with people who dress up like that. Believe it or not, they're even nicer than Westerners! I find it so disappointing that they were treated in such a way.
2006-09-12 02:57:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
A casino will not allow anyone wearing a face mask to enter the building... and THAT is just money... no casino has ever crashed into a corn field.
I think airlines are in their rights to refuse passage to anyone who boards the plane with a mask or looking like a moving traffic cone with a veil tossed over it...
I don't care about THEIR rights to travel on a plane... I care about MY RIGHTS to arrive safely at my destination.
2006-09-12 02:41:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 2⤋
I too would have freaked out and ask to get off the plane. I don't like or trust these towel heads or the phony sheets the woman wear. It all reeks of bull-crap to me. These people do it on purpose. They want to create uneasiness and disrupt our lives. That is all part of their plan. I say, if you want to fly, you can't dress like a terrorist. Take the towels off and dress like you belong in the USA. If you don't want to dress like you belong, then get the f--- out! And take ALL your muslim idiot friends with you.
2006-09-12 03:18:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋