Why do people try and justify the 7/7 bombers ?

Question

Oh i dont agree with the war in Iraq so i will blow up as many innocent men, woman and children as i can. These people are bigoted racists and if they are religious well the muslim brotherhood will reap worse to come if they keep heading down this road. When BNP is shunned by society as outcasts for being extreme racists, why should we tolerate other peoples scum all we seem to do is excuse these creeps oh they were volatile young men who were lead astray bollox they are a hundred times worse than anything the IRA\UVF\BNP or any other nationalist terrorist organisation from the west has come up with. Time to stop excusing them. Whats next if they had blown all those airliners out of the sky would we have a civil war in this country, it doesnt bare thinking about after sixty years of peace since world war two.

Answer 1

An opinions an opinion, doesn't matter what it is or where it came from. Isn't it called free speech?

Also, don't tarr loads of people with the same brush. We represent ourselves. I know I do.

Answer 2

Very unfortunate. I don't have an answer, and some of the most brilliant minds don't either.
Even those, in many cases, have a political agendas.

If we were to arm every citizen of every free country in the world, at whom would we shoot?

Some time, somewhere, some Muslim has to speak up and condemn killing. If only for the murder of other Muslims.

Here in the US, I've seen only feeble criticisms from the Muslim community.

My first, late wife was half Lebanese, and I assure you that the family and their friends would never have associated themselves with it.
They came here to escape tyranny.
But, they are all gone now, and we have many younger ones of whom I know nothing of their beliefs.

Society is more divided than I ever remember.
The Great Depression was bad, the Korean War, and Vietnam. I did not see the hatred cast at one another in this country as there is today.
Have we found the enemy and it is ourselves?

Answer 3

An Anglican chaplain has likened the London Tube bombers to Christian crusaders.

Canon Philip Gray, chaplain to the Bishop of Blackburn, said the extremists who carried out the 7/7 attacks shared the same "religious passion" as those who took part in the Christian Crusades.

Writing in the Blackburn diocesan newsletter, he said a number of Christian figures had committed violent acts.

"Behind modern fanatical Islamic terrorism lie many spiritual and religious passions and narratives also found in the Christian tradition." he wrote.

"Blind Samson, his hairy growth returning, commits an act of suicidal terrorism as he destroys the pillars of the pagan temple.

"The people of Israel sing their song of triumph – which we echo in the Easter vigil – as the bodies of the Egyptians float in the Red Sea."

The chaplain added: "We cannot simply ignore the violent passion of Jesus cleansing the temple with whips. We are never told of the collateral damage possibly resulting from his actions.

"In the Christian tradition we rejoice over the passionate commitment and bloody deaths of numerous martyrs. We need to consider the same religious passion and spiritual single mindedness lies at the heart of a London bomber and a Christian crusader."

The Express newspaper reports that the Church of England distanced itself from the comments by Canon Gray, chaplain to Bishop Nicholas Reade. A spokesman said: "These were the canon’s personal views.

"It is fairly clear that most occurrences of terror have been linked to a form of religious expression, but this is a twisting of faith." A spokesman for the Catholic evangelical group CASE told the newspaper: "In their time, everyone believed in a Holy War.

"It was justified at the time because of the climate. The Crusades were supported by popes.

"There is no way Christians could justify something like the 7/7 attacks these days. The comments are unhelpful, inflammatory and foolish."

But Jonathan Bartley, director of the religious thinktank Ekklesia, who recently co-edited a book Consuming Passion, which examines some of the violence contained in the Bible and the Christian tradition suggested that Philip Gray had raised important issues.

"Those who read the article that Philip Gray has written will see that he is not providing any justification whatsoever for the 7/7 attacks. Rather he is pointing to the violence within the Christian tradition which many would like to forget, explain away, or abdicate responsibility for.

"But if Christians are to speak meaningfully about terror, as Gray has highlighted, they will need to face up to the violence contained within their own scriptures and indeed some manifestations of Christianity today."

Answer 4

If the people knew the full story on the 7/7 incident there would be a civil war. The secret services are sooooo implicated in the terror that has happened to 'westerners'. Killing innocent people is despicable doesn't matter who it was done by. During the "war on terror" many more Muslims have died than non-Muslims, why would any-one bring that on themselves? I advise you keep an open mind when it comes to what is reported on this war on terror, otherwise your lining yourself up for serious disillusionment, and disappointment.

Answer 5

We do have and indeed continue to have many freedoms here in the U.K., These freedoms we take for granted,unfortunately the people you talk of use freedom of speech to promote hatred and acts of terrorism.Where were these people when the British were fighting for these freedoms? I have said for years that the death penalty should be in force for actual or attempted acts of terrorism,any terrorist,wether muslim or any other should be regarded as the excretia of humanity,one day a backlash will come against these cowards,they are to mentaly retarded to see that they will never beat the British people!!. I am in complete disagreement with our service personal being in Iraq and Afgahnistan,I support our troops 100%,but not the idiots that have put them there.

Answer 6

People are in denial regarding this, what we have are fifth columists who are hell bent on destruction they hate the british way of life. The same thing happened in europe in the 1930s with the nazis you had the pacisfists who would stick their head in the sand and pretend nothing was happening eg when chamberlain went to berlin and he came back with a piece of paper from hitler promising he wouldnt invade poland. And as they say the rest is history. This situation could develop into something a lot worse if people dont wake up to what is happening around them, it wont be pretty.

Answer 7

Only a left wing moron would disagree with you. There are those unmentionables, who play the game of pretending to condemn it on the one hand, then try to explain it, even coming close to justifying it, on the other. Part of a devious long term strategy.

Flymetoth, is an absolute disgrace by trying to explain/parallel these atrocities with what crusaders did hundreds of years ago. They, in their day were defending the faith against Islamic expansionism.

Answer 8

You print a link to anywhere that supports what has happened. You made that up, then you want to get indignant about it.

Like the BNP made up the lie that 'they' object to the flag during the world cup, or 'they' object to the easter bunny or whatever. Then printed a load of indignant 'questions' about it.

The BNP and other groups are Fascist. Any one can be a fascist, its not about colour.

Answer 9

The problem is not that there are people who will justify terrorist actions. The real problem is that there is no people who will justify or support the actions of the government to eliminate terrorists.

Answer 10

Hey, your new but you won't last long with questions like this. I would not be surprised if this question got a violation notice.

If you cut out the invective your question would say the same thing and not be at risk.

Good luck