Why do people want to ban gay marriage?

Question

What ever happened to equal rights ? Do people even care about the Constitution anymore ?

Can someone make a legitimate case against gay marriage without citing the bible ?

Cora I wasn't sure on any current law, but I do know that 45 states are in process to enact a ban gay marriage

Lord Z your incorrect the religious institution does not have to reckognize gay marriage for the goverment to reckognize it . You can be granted a license without a religious ceremony. try to think of better arguements .

Answer 1

To me, gay marriages fall within the purview of both "liberty" and the "pursuit of happiness." I personally think gay marriage should be legalized.

At the same time I am surprised at how many gay couples seem to feel the need to become "married." In the US, you do not need a "holy person" to marry you. In the US, marriage is a religious institution for whoever wants it to be, but it is a legal institution to everyone who is married in the US. Marriage is a wonderful affirmation of your love and devotion to your partner, but who really needs the federal government to recognize that relationship. I don't care what my government thinks about my marital status, so I have a hard time seeing why this is an important issue.

Maybe I think the fact that marriage has become a legal institution is what bothers me, regardles of whether it is a hetero or homosexual marriage. To me, marriage should mean that the people who know and love you know that you are dedicated to spending your life with your spouse.

Anyway, because gay marriage is covered by two of the three "unalienable" rights described in the declaration of independence, I think we should recognize it. Freedom of religion, despite what most Americans think, was also a keystone to the building of this country, so for that reason, I also think the GOVERNMENT should recognize gay marriages, despite the posturing of various religions.

Answer 2

First of all, "Why?"
It is all quite connected to the same motives for why, 46 years ago, every single state legislature in the country banned "sodomy." It was then and it is now about protecting a traditional moral value. For many people it is a moral value learned from Biblical scripture. For others it is simply the idea that homosexuality is "unnatural." The idea is that heterosexuality is "normal" and homosexuality is "abnormal." And I would remind all of you that as of 35 years ago, the American Psychiatric Association was saying that homosexuality was a kind of mental illness and everyone who suffers from the affliction should seek therapy and try to get "cured." But now, the prospect that homosexual marriage might possibly become the "equal" of traditional heterosexual marriage takes all of those ideas and traditions and threatens to flush them all down the toilet. Many people simply do not want to have their traditional moral values go down the drain.

"What ever happened to equal rights?"
What makes you think that "rights" have ever been "equal" to begin with? Think about all of the points I just made above and then you explain to me how it could be that homosexuals already had complete equality with heterosexuals and then, somehow, wacky Christians started coming out of the woodwork and started taking away from homosexuals the equal rights they once had. (That WE once had, I should say. I'm gay, BTW.)

"Do people even care about the Constitution anymore?"
Sure I do. But I don't interpret it the same way you do.

"Can someone make a legitimate case against gay marriage without citing the Bible?"
There is nothing wrong with citing the Bible. But even on your limited criterion there is an easy explanation: Marriage is for opposite-sex couples because they will usually reproduce whereas same-sex couples usually will not.

Answer 3

Every society needs things called mores and morals to exist and remain viable. These are just rules that everyone is expected to operate by. With out them any society would self destruct. There must be agreed on rules and limits as to what is acceptable and what is not. But there are always people who think the rules are a little to restrictive and things should be loosened up a little. This person thinks gays should be allowed to marry. If they are, then at what age? If an 18 year old should be allowed to marry a 60 year old of the same sex then why shouldn't a 17 year old have the same right? Soon Nambla would be pushing for the rights of a 4 year old boy to have sex with that 60 year old man! There must be a point where you say this far and now further! Gay marriage seems to be the point where most feel things would be going to far and society would fall apart.

Answer 4

Well since you brought up the Constitution, it clearly states that the Government cannot create a Church.

Gay marriages do that.

Marriages are religious ceremonies.

Wedding licenses recognize these ceremonies for tax purposes.

If no recognized religion wants to recognize gay marriages as acceptable then the Government has no business in trying to tell them they have to.

Did you miss the whole Anglican Church and Protestant reformation thing in history class? That is the one where King Henry the Eighth created his own Church to give him a divorce and recognize his new marriage. It created Religious persecution in England. It lead to the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing in subsequent years. And when people came to this country they did so to get away from such religious persecution. And when the country decided to unite they made sure that they would not face other religions or government officials telling them how to practice their faith.

Did you miss that part?

Recognizing gay marriages is religious persecution. It is telling the churches that the government can create rules for them. If it is not then it is mute anyway. Why create a law that noone will perform the ceremony for.

Let me guess you want the justices of the pece to do it. That would be a state religion.

You want the rogue churches to do it. All that happens there is their main offices excomunicate them and the licenses become invalid.

So, there you go. No Bible, only the Constitution.

Answer 5

Probably because there is not such thing as "gay marriage" to begin with. There never has been and there never should be.

The "equal rights" agument is equally fallacious. Why should we disgrace a thousands of years old tradition under the guise of "equal rights" under the whim of some San Fransciso liberals. Homosexuals have equal rights already. They have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex just like heterosexual people.

Same-sex marriage in society is fruitless and would cheapen heterosexual marriage which is already suffering an approximately 50% failure rate.

Remember no one is telling homosexuals they can't be gay, I speak for practically all conservatives when I say I could care less what they do behind closed doors. Maybe if you called it a civil union it would be better accepted, but don't disgrace the traditions of normal people.

Answer 6

You said in my question Bush has suspended Amendment 5 ,6 and 8 of the Constitution
Amendment V - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


When where how - I am a Canadian and I had no idea this happened are you talking soley of his actions or a law of some sort?

Answer 7

Some people want to ban gay marriages due to the fact that in this society that we live in, marriage is suppose to be a man and woman committing to each other on a piece of paper. They become husband and wife and then have children. The reality of the matter is that we have people that are very curious and want to see how it is to involve themselves with the same sex. Some try it and don't like it, and then some try it and they love it. I think most people are just use to the husband and wife thing. That's what we are raised to believed.

Answer 8

Actually, there are no laws prohibiting gay marriage. A gay man and a lesbian woman can get married in any state.

45 states have, however, passed laws discriminating based on gender. Why? Because they are enacting prejudiced bigoted laws for no valid secular reason, just to make their dominant religion happy.

And, nobody apparently cares about the Constitution anymore. There is no valid non-religious reason to discriminate based on either gender or sexual orientation. But apparently, since the Constitution doesn't matter, religious doctrine can be turned into law and nobody seems to care.

{EDIT} And for all those people who claim that same-sex marriage leads to polygamy or bestiality, wake up and stop being mindlessly stupid.

Every law in the US dealing with marriage works for two adult humans. And none of them work differently for husbands versus wives. So, gender already is not an issue. And allowing same-gender couples doesn't change anything.

But expanding the laws beyond two adult humans requires massive rewrites. Any five-year-old can tell you that 2 equals 2, and 2 doesn't equal 3 or 5 or cats. So, stop making mindless arguments that any five-year-old should realize are nonsensical.

Answer 9

The gay thing just is not right. J.C Penny can only keep a minimal amount of flannel shirts in stock during the winter months. Why should I have to go any farther than J.C. Penny to purchase a flannel shirt?

Answer 10

I do not believe in state sanctioned marriage as marriage is a religious affair. The sensible thing to do is to allow people whatever ceremonies they please and if they break up and wish to sue for possessions of finances, property, and or children the court can decide such legal matters by the number of years they have cohabitated together.