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Here are the details I need help with topics to bring up in this debate. This is so hard for me becuase one I am okay with anyone being with someone in any way. I have friends and relatives that are a same sex marriage. Plus if you want to be with someone of the same sex go ahead. So here is the details I need topics to bring up during my debate and paper. But I want everyone to respect everyone and respect their thoughts and opinions also, PLease answer in an orderly fashion
Thanks Everyone

2006-09-08 14:06:39 · 13 answers · asked by nellie 1 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

13 answers

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are property, blacks can't marry whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to things like cars or longer life-spans.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.

2006-09-08 14:10:02 · answer #1 · answered by Chelsey 5 · 4 2

Right, here we go.

First, based on US law as I understand it re: no establishment of religion, religious argument alone cannot and should not be a part of the debate.

Secondly, Marriage AKA betrothel in ancient times was actually a chattel contract for proprietory ownership of land and / or person(s) ie: wife. That's what the dowry was for, it was payment.

Third, the procreation argument collapses on the basis of infertility, using the religious procreation argument to it' logical conclusion, all marriages where children are not present would constitute a breach of the "biblical" contract of marriage as religious people see it.

Fourth, there are no practical or rational arguments to put forward in regards to not allowing same sex marriage. Consider this point in particular, those opposed have stated on numerous occasions that same sex marriage would destroy society, these are the same people who think gays make up less than 1% of the population, do the math. Also, it has been argued that allowing same sex marriage would bring a corrupting influence to marriage as it is now, news flash: divorce, annulments, adultery and Britneys 55hr marriage are not the fault of gays or of same sex marriage, straights did that all by themselves.

Fifth, same sex marriage is a natural extension of existing same sex partnerships in which estates, property and even the raising of children has gone on without harm. On this point, the religious opponents cannot argue.

Sixth, Same sex marriage has existed in the past within some of the greatest societies the earth has ever know, Greece, Babylon, Rome and others. It was considered as normal and spiritual as any marriage of the day or today.

Seventh, ultimately the argument comes back to religion, and given that in the strictest sense belief in the supernatural (in this case God) is considered a form of dillusion, we must conclude that religion should not play any part in the debate beyond of course the idea of forcing a church to marry against its doctrine.

Finally, If we, for a moment argue marriage is a religious institution only, then logically, any church that is recognized by the government should allow same sex marraige if that church deems it appropriate. In other words, you can't have it both ways, if it is a governmental construct, then equality rights must be given, if on the other hand it is a religious construct, then those denominations which allow it should be recognized.

Hope these points help.

For the record, I am Canadian and we have had same sex marriages for over three years and guess what, the earth didn't stop rotating, kids are still being born and life goes on.

2006-09-09 01:54:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There are a lot of biblical reasons why Gays should not marry. Personally the lies of the bible have been passed down for so long as the truth. That it has become the back bone of misinformed believes. That become illusions of present day humanity. So, if people still want to be in the hate movement towards freedom for everyone in meaning true freedom. Then why should we all be free to marry anyone we want to. It is better to still spread ignorance because, than we don't have to except the differences of others. To be challenged of thinking that it is just love that everyone as a person seeks out in a partner. Weather same sex, bi, or straight it is love. So, lets ban LOVE or make that illegal. It is not pro-creation that makes a marriage. Might as well make sex out side of marriage illegal as well.......It is wrong to even ask this question? If you had to ask everyone if you could get married (straight) going door to door and them slamming the door in your face. Telling you no to marring the opposite sex....How would that go over....
So, I say lets make Love illegal punishable by death. Lets live in the dark ages and not move forward.......
Spread Ignorance it is safer for everyone.....See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil.........

2006-09-08 23:54:47 · answer #3 · answered by KD 2 · 0 1

rand_a has a good point. I know folks that think that if the heterosexuals want marriage to be just for them, so be it. Why do we want to copy them anyway? (maybe it is the 1049 rights that depend on marital status - but I digress!)

In my opinion, the reason this is such a controversial issue is the emotional charge surrounding the word "marriage." Especially in the US, where the act of getting married is synonymous with a church ceremony for most people, this topic is tightly entwined with religious bias and philosophy.

I feel for you ... I had to present a paper \ debate once taking the stand that it is morally wrong to eat plants.

Good luck!

2006-09-08 21:19:20 · answer #4 · answered by rainbow_doe 2 · 1 1

Gay and lesbian people should be able to marry, of course, but I have heard the argument that stretching the definition of marriage to include same sex relationships means that it could be stretched further to include polygamy, which is against the law at the moment as well.

2006-09-08 21:13:38 · answer #5 · answered by Chickyn in a Handbasket 6 · 0 2

If you're ok with it and are having trouble coming up with reasons against, there's hope for the world yet.

However, to reach the end of your goal, I'd say strike up a debate with somebody who's against and make notes of their arguments. Unfortunately, I can't help you there.

2006-09-08 21:10:46 · answer #6 · answered by Trid 6 · 0 1

Go to the website below. It might give you some leads to help with your paper. Good luck.

http://www.indegayforum.org/

2006-09-08 21:37:47 · answer #7 · answered by wicked64 2 · 0 0

Love 2 Sing gave you lots of suggestions but what about

If two gay people live their lives together and one of them dies, is it fair on the surviving partner for the estate of the deceased to revert to his family or be subject to much higher inheritance tax.

If two gay people live their lives together and one of them falls ill shouldn't the other partner be entitled to be treated as the next of kin?

2006-09-08 21:15:00 · answer #8 · answered by Augusta B 3 · 0 1

Homosexuals should marry if they could handle the responsibilities of their marriage.

2006-09-11 01:28:48 · answer #9 · answered by heidi_springle 2 · 0 0

I agree with you, but here's an argument I've heard a lot. Marriage was meant to procreate and people of the same sex can't procreate.

2006-09-08 21:09:39 · answer #10 · answered by Purdey EP 7 · 0 3

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