Question about the big bang and god.?

Question

Why is it that religious people often say that the energy for the big bang had to come from somewhere and that is proof of the existence of god and yet they accept the idea that god came from nowhere?

you'r not actually answering my question i'm not saying that god does exxist and i'm not asking why people beleive in him, please re read my question be fore answering it.

my next question is going to be, why is it wenever i ask questions like this why is it that no one reads the question properly and thus no one actually answers it.

i think that there is actually proof of the big bang if you study the background radiation of the universe then you can learn something of the 'big bang' however there is no such proof of god.

Answer 1

Because people have to believe in something greater than themselves even when they cannot provide a logical explanation for it.

Answer 2

God 'created'

Let's look at it like this

Draw a 0 on a piece of paper
When you draw the 0 is it a nothing or something?

There is no such thing as 'nothing'

As soon as you draw your 0 it become something-because it is 1 rotation
so now we have a number=1

Those two were created at the exactly the same time


so together, we have a 10-the zero used with the something yet alone the 0 was a rotation = 1 spin=1 whole=1 something
Where is the 0?

2; we had two things created above so it wasn't just a 1 or a rotation created but now we have the number 2....
I could go on all night with this but giving a simple demonstration how there was never a 'nothing' because it immediately become a something=1 rotation and the creation of continuance=more digits as I showed you

The 10; The 1 stands before the 0 because the 0 is not a number, it was rotation so the 1 is greater (as you know)
2 unique things standing side by side to create another new thing=the number ten, yet as two separates=1 number and 1 rotation.....gets confusing huh ;)

Answer 3

Maybe it is the conflict at the very heart of the discussions between clerics and scientists. Scientists cannot accept that something can be created from nothing because of the 3rd law of thermodynamics (in nutshell it states that energy is not created nor destroyed it is just converted from one form to another). So for the Scientists they believe in the energy that powered the big bang was always there it was just converted into the Universe, via the big bang, into what we see today. GOD maybe defined as that pre-big bang energy.

As for the Clerics they can accept the big bang as part of the creation theory that the church adheres to (im sure some have accepted evolutionary theory to some point as an aspect of creation as well but not many). However they could never accept that God came from somewhere as this would mean he would have been created at some point (much the same as were are, allegedly in Genesis). This in turn would mean that GOD is not omnipotent and not really that much more powerful than ourselves because GOD himself was also created. Which would mean that something much more powerful existed before that which the Clerics refuse to believe because it would weaken GODs position in the Universe, weaken the Church's doctrine and ultimately weaken the Church's hold a large number of the earths inhabitants. At the end of the day the church's belief in the big bang is an aknowledgement of scientific fact (because they have to), while acceptance that God came from nothing is method maintaining GODs mystery and omnipotence. All said and done it comes down to power ( and I don't mean the power that created the Universe). If you can confuse someone long enough they will stop trying to understand and just believe what you tell them.


To find out where GOD came from I suggest studying a more Earthly source such as the early Pagan religions. These are ultimately where our GOD comes from, however the clerics will not acknowledge them (hence GOD came from nothing).

Answer 4

The problem with religion is: it has lost its meaning, education has prompted people to think and speak out against that which does not make sense or is physicaly or mentaly impossible. People nowadays prefer to dicuss and work things out with proof rather than belief. The Bible and other religious manuscripts tell exagerated stories about fictitious characters. The stories cannot be relied upon to be absolute fact and much of the doctrine bears totaly against Godly deeds. For example, King David, commited adultry, murdered for the love of a woman, cheated his brothers , butchered every man woman and child in a settlement and then did the same to two other settlements and so on. Would any one out there admit to believing that the butchering of children was somthing they would agree was right: even if they read it in the Bible or God said it is alright to do so.
Apparently Mormans think so, I had two on my door step yesterday , who told me they believe David was right to carry out genocide on samuels say so. I realy mean this ''God help anyone who thinks this way'' God gave us a brain to tell right from wrong and all the time you have fanatics being drawn to words written between four thousand and two thousand years ago when understanding and values were not recognised as a human should understand values, must be sad, sad people with maladjusted brains. I t is tiime for a new Religion codified by man from the God within .

The old religions must let go to make way for a new religion. If you beleive in God, why worry, God will lead the way. It just means that those who now hold control over the poplace will be demoted and have to prove the visions rather than ask people to follow blindly, then a start can be made to repair the world

In any new religion science should provide the back up to truth and religion must accept reality (that what man understands). The big bang represents the power of the universe we live and does not diminish the idea of God (who can prove God does not exist) Man has been given the gift of a babies logic and this logic will grow as man grows up

Surport a Universal Doctrine

All the best

Answer 5

If the big bang did not come from God then where did it come from? That is the fatal flaw in your religion (yes, the religion of science).

You see I am a scientist and Christian. There is a large body of scientific truth that cannot be discounted simply because religious conservatives don't feel comfortable with it. The same goes for the scientists who make assertions that leap beyond observable fact or logical conclusion. Until people realize the two are not mutually exclusive all we are really doing is arguing about the correctness of two different religions.

Answer 6

The Big Bang theory starts a fraction of a second _after_ the bang. As a famous physicist said: "The Big Bang theory says nothing about what banged, how it banged, or why it banged."

As with evolution, there's no reason why science and religion have to fight about this one. The territory of science is what happened right after the bang. We know a lot about that, and it's based on solid evidence. What banged, why it banged and who did it is the territory of religion. We know virtually nothing about that, and have no real scientific evidence about it. Scientifically, saying a higher power caused it is just as valid as "branes". The (lack of) evidence is the same.

It's one reason why many scientists who believe in Big Bang theory are also religious. Everything in life doesn't have to be about proof. Faith can also be an important part of your life, even if you like science.

Answer 7

The reason we say what we say is simply that the whole thing is a paradox. There can be no answers, either from a religious or scientific perspective., concerning the big bang. Science refers to an "X" factor; which Christians and others call "God". We just don't know how and never will.

Answer 8

It is the paradox of trying to use reason to prove religion..it is not possible to use reason on a subject that requires a leap of faith.

Agreed that it is quite frustrating when people jump to answer and the answer has nothing or very little to do with question.

Fun fact:: The temperature of absolute zero is temperature when all atomic motion stops...Outer Space has been measured to be only 5 degrees warmer than absolute zero. The temperature difference? Result of heat from the Big Bang

Answer 9

I'm not religious but I think the universe started when nothing nus was at a singularity then time and space pulled apart and caused the 'Big Bang' Religious people believe that the Bible s true where as others don't.

Answer 10

The way I see it is that the human mind can not possibly contemplate nothingness. How can we even exist? What lies beyond the edge of the Universe? and so on. Ever since human beings became self aware they have questioned the existence. God is a simple way to explain everything. Its been found that even prehistoric man performed burial rituals and this was a way of easing the pain and grief the loss of a loved one caused. Even to present day religious people tend to believe they will see their loved ones again one day. You can use religion to explain a lot of things, even when they are clearly contradicting themselves. We are still so insignificant when you look at the universe it really makes me laugh when people think we are so important on the grand scale of things.

Answer 11

God came from nowhere or perhaps everywhere and is not bound by time, as indeed, the universe may not be (I think). Both God and the universe are unfathomable to me yet I still believe in them both.