What does the average democrat have in mind when they say change course in Iraq?

Question

When democrats say we want to change the course in Iraq it doesn't mean we want defeat or to leave Iraq to chaos, it means that's exactly where the course we're stayying on now is leading to, right?
Does it actually mean that we want to figure out what course we're on now and why we're on it and change the direction of that course for the better as much as we can every day until we are honorably untangled from fighting who and where will not increase the safety of the american people and only target the terrorists who are attempting to attack the united states with effective tactics and stratagies until victory is achieved and the war on terrorism won?
My suggestion for deafeating the tactic of terrorism(victory) is marginalizing it to only the most psychotic extremists by addressing and resolving injustices satisfactorily to all parties by truely respecting the life, liberty, rights, opinion's and pursuit of happiness of all people equally domestically and overseas.

first to chainsaw, my suggestions are not in polls, my thoughts had no whining in them, and the presidents result so far is steady deteriation in the conditions of Iraq since we've been there with no plan for improvement and stayying the course we're on will lead to getting the same results, steadt deteriation, that is his course.
to tok h, there's a big diffrence between courses that lead to victory, winning, stalemate, slowly losing, and retreat and what i want is victory not retreat when the troops win then they are no longer needed there and will leave that's not retreating.
to g, a time table isn't needed, just steady, if slow, positive results which right now we are getting slow steady negative results
to ts, my question did not even mention the president and I just did explain what I'd like to see
to Michael, there's a big diffrence between cutting and running and winning and leaving.

to trl 666, firstly your right we'll never defeat every single terrorist, but if we can shrink the pool of violent extremists as much as possible and focas our efforts to foil the attacks of those left much more successfully then thats as good as we're going to get, as good as it gets sounds like a goal one could call victory.
secondly your right about the iraqi army having prblems but i don't believe there lazy they risk there lives just to sign up for service, the iraqi army needs to be able to defend there country effectively, of course there will be attacks there for many years to come, but when they can defend themselves and there nation and slowly steadily be on the course that leads to less and less fighting without our intervention that's when we can leave.
thirdly president bush isn't so much forcing our way of life on them but is fanning the flames of conflict that's leading to deteriorating of conditions on the ground and steadily increasing violence, that's not winning

trl 666 fourthly, your right again we do need to use diplomacy everywhere we can and need to stop those whom such tactics won't work from attacking the united states, in most situations with law enforcement, the military in most situations isn't really going to work it's like trying to perform brain surgery with a jackhammer, we need to be precise or we're just going to increase hatred and make more terrorists.
to john condo2001, I originally was fooled by the lead up to the iraq war myself but that was intentional by the bush administration, it's a now public fact that the intelligance community knew there was a really shakey case for wmd and that letting inspectors inspect the country would contain saddam and detect anything he had eventually. and you were right saddam was irans counterbalance and removing him without considering the aftermath inside and around iraq was the mistake we're payying for now.

to beardog4314, every politician has political gain in mind and always will, but most democrats at least right now are acting like they remember that in war time politics come second and victory comes first, I can't say the same for the republican leadership based on there political stratagies and statements, and your right both sides need better leadership.
to stifleyourselfliberal, its actually the conservative lexicon of the liberal lexicon that says change course means cut and run, your answer is a clear example of that
to boardrunner94, i clearly articulated what i meant when i say change course and it clearly is not cut and run, and in fact has those very suggestions you say are lacking it's in the third paragraph.
and to trickydick, thanks for the complament.

and to hitler is bush, what i think you mean to say is the tactics and stratagies that constatute " the course" have been effectively countered before they were even attempted in Iraq, the course is so outdated that stayying on it is exactly what the terrorists want and is playying perfectly into there own tactics and stratagies.

Answer 1

Change the course means stand against the President and take a position that your recently taken poll tells you to. While Democrats are whining, the President gets results. Not perfect results, but striving for such.

Answer 2

1. We will never defeat terrorism fully. There will always be extremists. We may be able to make it harder for them but we will never defeat them all.

2. Yes you hit on a good point the plan of action isnt to just pull out but to make the Iraqi government be responsible for itself instead of what it is doing now by being lazy and making us keep occupying the country which in turn is actually causing more people to join extremist groups.

3. In a manner of speaking the administration right now is trying to force our way of life on thse people and they do not appreciate it. They want to live by their religion and their own form of government. But they are a violent group of people who when the other is in charge the other will just blow stuff up and it will cause a constant civil war which they are almost in right now.

4. We cannot defeat terrorism with terrororism we can do it with deplomacy for the most part but when they do **** up we blow the assholes that did it into outerspace and say now come do this again. Thats called carrying the big stick which has worked great throughout our nations history.

Answer 3

When you tell a libertard that changing the course means cutting & running, they deny that vehemently but NEVER say what "changing the course" means. You can ask them until you are "blue in the face" and NEVER get a clear answer. Why is this? They know that they would lose votes if they ADMIT they intend to cut & run. Never, do they have any suggestions and/or ideas for improving our position in Iraq (or on other fronts in our war on terrorism)

Answer 4

Unfortunately, most democrats only have political gain in mind when they oppose the president. It's unfortunate, because it means that in way, that idiot is leading them too. Until they can put up a good leader, instead of someone who polls well, we'll continue to have our options limited to fools and nancyboys for candidates, like the last two presidential elections.

Answer 5

stan... perhaps easier said than done... but someone doing something... anything... would be a step in the right direction...

I think most Americans, especially dems, are in favor of a deadline.. setting some goals for Iraq... currently there seems to be no vision or purpose... a deadline would give everyone something to shoot for... and you can always move deadlines back, that's what politicians do best...

Chainsaw: what results? less stabilty and more sectarian violence than ever? that's what the most recent dod review on Iraq said... or did you miss that one

Answer 6

What does the average Democrat mean when they say change the course in Iraq? Three words cut and run!

Answer 7

In the democRAT lexicon,"change course" means: to cut and run.

Answer 8

we have no right to go to other country and tell them what to do.and Saddam was the thorn in Iran side now it not there

Answer 9

Who knows what they mean, they never explain what to do! They can only say "Bush is bad" like robots

Answer 10

no democracy came with occupied army