would irwin have survive had he left the barb in?

Question

i'm serious this is not a piss take i really liked the guy he was very entertaining and will be missed dearly

Answer 1

Well first I have a question: does the stingray barb detach from the stingray when it is 'discharged' so to speak? If it does NOT detach, then it's pretty unlikely under any circumstance that you'd have taken him in attached to a stingray barb attached to a stingray before he exsanguinated.
Now if if the barb does detach, the speculation is interesting. IF the puncture to the left ventricle** was a relativly simple puncture AND the barb was left in place AND the heart & great vessels kept pumping around it AND there was not an acute blood loss below which no one can survive, AND he was airlifted to somewhere with availiable level 5 emergent cardio-thoracic surgery to repair the puncture, AND he didn't die a late death due to infection from this grossly dirty wound, AND direct intra-arterial venom doesn't cause inevitable death, THEN THE ANSWER IS MAYBE ON A LONGSHOT. But that's the rosy picture.
As any basic trauma course teaches, always leave an impailed object in place. In this case, there was no chance of survival once the barb was pulled out as lost any potential 'tamponade' on the puncture wound. Pulling it out would certainly have been reflexive on Mr. Irwin's part.
BUT it may not have mattered either way. The barb's puncture may have been complicated, through & through the ventricle (or great vessel), or otherwise 'ratty'; that is, the barb may not have provided a temporary tamponade sufficient to allow transport, in which case there is zero chance of survival with or without removal of the barb. (The full autopsy report will give an indication of this; perhaps that information has been released, I don't know).
Yes, he died of a cardiac arrest; at the end of life, every single person who ever lived, lives now, and will ever live will die of a cardiac arrest. Likely his terminal rhythm was ventricular fibrillation, as would be expected in a healthy heart muscle with no blood to pump (exsanguination). That's to be expected.
Bless the man and his family, for all he brought to our lives, and for all he did and tried to do for the wildlife.
**(or some are saying Aorta, I don't personally know which, but the point is the same)

Answer 2

No i dont think he would have survived whether he removed it or not because the barb contained venom,so not only punctured his heart but injected venom directly into the heart too.This is what they believed caused the heart to go into arrest(a heart attack),not the barb itself,although even without the venom,his act of removing the barb would have caused a lot of damage because the barb itself has barbs to make it much more difficult to remove so pulling it out would have tore the tissue around it,causing even more injury to his heart

Answer 3

It's like the security measures at a parking lot. You can drive forward over them OK but it you try to back up the spikes stick up and cut your tires. Same idea with the barb. I think if he had left it in it would have done less damage but I don't know if it would make the difference between life and death.

Answer 4

I think he knew of the poison that would have instanly poisoned him through the direct entry point of the heart. So instead of suffering the effects of instantaneous shock. He saved himself from poison spreading through his body. I'm pretty sure if you puncture your heart you know it. So instead of dying a slow death from posion and heart failure/bleeding trauma. He died with peace and the relief of one final pain gratifingly removed. This untimely loss effects all who are enviromentally sound. I extend a f*ck you to his critics that say he exploited animals. Because as society grows we neglect them, labeling them nuisances and acting like this is our world and our's alone. Truth is the overpoulation is overbearing and natures balance is disrupted and he saw nothing wrong with being at peace in nature even through the wildest of scenarios. So how many of his critics would wrestle a gator or grab a poisionus snake none, just the voice of jealous hippocrits. Crocidilehunter R.I.P. May our condolences be accepted to all his family and fans.

Answer 5

No,

punctured Aorta without having a heart lung machine right there and ready to bypass you are toast. Dead as a doornail, Tango-Uniform, taking a dirt nap, being wormfood. Sorry Stevo, no pass go, no collect $2,000,000.
The Aorta is the one major vessel in the body if punctured spells one thing "dead."

Answer 6

The position of the puncture would have been fatal within 3-4 minutes

Answer 7

No, he would NOT have survived had he left it in. It punctured his aorta. It was fatal one way or the other. End of story. Peace to his family.

And to those who kep saying he had cardiac arrest, yes he did. That happens when the aorta is punctured. Geesh!

Answer 8

i wondered that myself. With any piercing injury the advice is to leave in place until you can get medical attention.
I heard that the venom of a stingray isnt enough to kill immediately so maybe he could have had a chance.
Poor guy

Answer 9

this is different but i know someone who survived when a pencil stabbed into their heart and they left it in but a stingray's barb is much different

Answer 10

no it was 2 close 2 the heart