Do the Democrats Understand?

Question

Do the democrats in congress understand the threat to America and the free world from ISLAMOFASCISM?

Do they understand the fallacy of negotiating with those who would slaughter Americans and destroy our country?

Do they understand the plan that the enemy is pursuing?

Can they offer any plan beyond what we are trying to do?

Why do they seem to try and undermine those efforts?

Please, just answer the questions with your reasoning for your belief.

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Answer 1

Democrats have no agenda and they just oppose Bush they vote for the War in Iraq then slam him now and call for US withdraw knowing Iraq will became a mess if the USA leaves now.If he does accuse him of deserting Iraq

What did Clinton do after USS cole was hit and the Kenya and Tanzania embassy he should have gone after Laden .what did he do hit Sudan why ?
Afghanistan bombed a few tents caused less 1000 dollors of damage the terrorists had fled
This led to 9/11

Answer 2

The Republicans like to say they are for security and safety, but if you look at what they have actually done, you can see it is all for show...

Loose nukes is one of the largest security threats out there, yet the Republican president and congress have slashed the budget and man-power for finding and securing loose nukes. They have also opposed better scanning of cargo containers because their corporate contributors tell them to.

After 9/11, the President and the Republicans in congress opposed the 9/11 Commission, and only agreed because of public demand. They have also chosen to ignore most of the recommendations from the commission.

Cronies, time and again the Bush plans have failed largely because the people placed in jobs are not qualified. Everyone knows about 'Browny'. But, there have been many more, such as Bremmer. These people ignore the advice or overrule decision made by people with significant experience and knowledge, in favor of polocy and conservative philosophy. If we had had the right people in place after the Iraq war, the insurgency would never have happened and thousands of Americans and Iraqis wouldn't have been killed.

No oversight. Things in Iraq and other places have been made even worse because the contractors, Haliburton being the prime example, charged the government for BILLIONS of dollars, and then either did a bad job or didn't do the work at all. That is money that could have gone to real security measures.

I have heard the Democrats bring up all of these issues and many others. This administration is at best incompitent, but they are likely much worse.

(Edit) Prior to Bush taking over, the US was in one of the best economic periods in recent history. Unemployment was low. We had a budget surplus in the government.

Now... under Bush, salaries are at a stand still. The deficit is the highest it has ever been in history (even when adjusted for inflation). The 'recovery' is only effecting those at the top and most economists feel things will get worse. The tax burden has shifted to the middle class. The gulf between the middle class and the rich is wider than ever.

Yeah... things are SO much better!?

Answer 3

I'm not a Democrat, I'm registered independent, and tend to split my ticket.

I've read and talked with many Democrats who understand that there are Islamic extremists who want to kill Americans.

However, what you're asking are loaded questions, with a lot of bad assumptions and loaded words.

The first I'll start with is "Islamofascism." Fascism is a political philosophy that deals with:
- Encouraging and promoting strong nationalistic and patriotic fervor
- Integration of private enterprise into government planning
- Strong powers in the leader of the nation
- Government dictated culture, and an interest in maintaining "purity" of the culture.

Now, I'm not calling Bush as a fascist, but the current U.S. government has tendencies towards these factors (as they are political conservatism taken to an extreme) whereas the terrorists have virtually none of any of these factors. Their motivations and tactics, while reprehensible are completely different. Attaching "fascism" to them is nothing but an attempt to relable something in as extreme terms as possible, and it's badly done.

Why do you say the Democrats are trying to undermine "those efforts"? You never label what the efforts are?

Are you discussing the war in Iraq? Iraq has nothing to do with the September 11 attacks. Bush said that in precisely those words not two weeks ago.

Are you discussing the NSA wiretapping plans? The Democrats don't want to stop the executive branch from surveillance. The president, like every president for the last 30 years, has had the ability to legally wiretap any of those calls. All the law requires is that a warrant be obtained -- even after the fact. How does that "undermine those efforts?"

If you want an actual dialogue, you're going to have to ask clear questions that actually have a question attached, instead of rhetorical baiting.

Answer 4

Sir, you have been misled. The layers of ignorance and incomprehension that underlie your question are numerous and deep.

There is no threat to the free world from "Islamofascism," even if such a thing existed. It is just the latest imaginary danger the Bush administration has cooked up to keep ignorant people like you scared of somebody so you will think Bush can protect you, which he can't.

The current crop of Islamists are just a bunch of ignorant rednecks that hate each other because their fathers and grandfathers hated each other. Most of them don't have a clue who Americans are or where the USA is located. If it isn't mentioned in the Qu'uran, they don't know anything about it.

These people could not develop a nuclear weapon if they had access to someone who knew how to make one. So they are not a threat in the sense that you seem to fear.

Most of the weapons of any force left in the Iran-Iraq area were given to Saddam Hussein by Dick Cheney. Dick would rather you didn't remember that, but it is to your advantage to study these crooks' histories in depth.

Indeed they are not easy to negotiate with, but that is not because they are fierce or well-versed in political doctrine. It is because they are ignorant, and have no idea what their options are. Only a few of their most brilliant leaders have a clue where the United States is or what it is. An example would be Osama bin Laden, who has exhausted the entire military and intelligence resources of the Bush administration without us even catching sight of his shirt tail. That's brilliance.

The enemy isn't pursuing a plan. They shoot until they run out of ammunition, and then somebody shoots them. Just like the Prophet Mohammad.

The Democratic party is assembling a platform for the next two elections that will include improved approaches to many things. You may have trouble understanding this platform, because it is based on the truth, which you are not used to hearing from your leaders, and because it requires some intelligence and willingness to listen. But only a few percent of the people need to get it in order for us to win back the assemblies and the executive offices. And it could happen.

I don't make sense of your next question. Who is trying to undermine what efforts?

There. It is up to you to learn to recognize reasoning when you see it.

Answer 5

I'm glad to see you are mimicking the rhetoric thrown out by the administration. Very heartening. "Islamofascism". Do you know what that means? Besides another make up word from the president?

1) yes, they understand, same as you and me.

2) yes, they understand that nobody negotiates with a terrorist. Isn't that covered in Political Science 101?

3) yes, they can offer a plan beyond what we are doing now. The question is, do you want to listen to the plan? Because all I got right now is more of the same, which apparently isn't working. Ask any democrat in national office what their plan is. It may be posted on their websites if you care to check...would that be called bipartisan involvement on your part?

4) That is politics, one side always has an opposite plan as the other. Trust me, if the parties were switched, you would be wondering why the republicans were trying to undermine the direction the democrats were taking...this isn't even an argument.

5) I have answered according to my belief, now, will you open your eyes and look around?

Since I answered 5 questions (well, four really), you can answer one of mine:

What has president Bush done for you, the common American? I'm not talking national security and big picture stuff. What has he done for you that has improved your way of life?

GOTCHA...you can't answer, can you? Your tongue is tied in knots, you are flabbergasted?

Answer 6

Do you understand that the right place to attack was in Afghanistan, not Iraq? Bin Laden was not in Iraq, nor did Saddam Hussein have any connections to 9/11, so what was the reasoning for invading? And don't try the WMD argument because even the White House has said that the weapons they found were old warheads that they already knew about.
If the Republicans are so concerned that the terrorists would follow us home if we brought our troops back, why don't we just redeploy to Afghanistan so they will follow us there? That way, we can pursue Bin Laden and get the terrorist out of Iraq so the new Iraqi government can run themselves. I believe that is what the Democrats are trying to present. You see, they are throwing plans into the discussion, but they fall on deaf ears. I bet FOX News didn't tell you about that, did they?

Answer 7

Its funny how all the answers for this question and other questions like it are answered by the opposite side. Neither reps or dems will admit anything good about the other side and only lash out when they disagree. sad. this is why america is no longer what she was. she stood for something a while ago, now we are a giant football field...all that matters is that one team or another gets into the inzone - by any means necessary.

I'm sorry to not answer your question, i really thought it necessary to point this out. No one is more unamerican than those who say someone else is unamerican because they disagree.

Answer 8

The democrats understand the threat to America all right. They've issued a 118 page report on the subject. Here it is if you care to read it.

Answer 9

No they don't understand
No they don't understand
No they don't understand
No they can't offer a plan as they have none
They not only seem to undermine, they try to undermine the effort's of the USA to defeat Nazislamo scum
The Defeatacrat Party is still crying over the 2000 election loss along with the 2004 loss They hate the USA and want it over run by terrorist scum

Answer 10

Too much to answer in this forum, I think, but I have one comment.

This I find funny: "Can they offer any plan beyond what we are trying to do?"

Please describe the plan that is in place now...what is it? Is there a plan in place at all? I've heard no "plan" at all, other than "Stay the course", which is a meaningless slogan.