Another nail in the coffin of those trying to deny Global Warming?

Question

First we had the science. Then Bush finally admitted global warming was real. Since then we've been seeing the effects around the world.

Finally, new ice-core samples show carbon levels are much higher than they've been in 800,000 years, and radiological testing shows this carbon comes from burning fossil fuel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/science_co2_dc


Can we finally stop debating this in the "politics" section?

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To answer the silly question, "where is the warming?" see http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#Q3

As for the ice caps growing - this is a misrepresentation of a scientist's work. He pointed out that while part of the caps are growing, other parts are shrinking, and there is a net loss.

Check the ice coverage of the Arctic Ocean (tested by nuclear submarines frequently) if you have any doubts.

Answer 1

funny how the only people still saying that 'global warming is all a liberal hoax' are the oil companies and energy companies that make their profits off of carbon dioxide emitting industries.
And why would thousands of scientists all over the world get together and claim there is global climate change happening, if it was not true? What profit is there for the? Why would they all agree on something like this? There is definitely a profit motive on the 'no climate change' side.

The fact is, global temperatures and global CO2 levels have been in near perfect parallel for millions of years. In the last 150 years, global CO2 levels have gone up to levels we have never had on Earth before, and global temperature levels are following that increase.

Answer 2

You need to read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. It details just how far the environmental extremists are willing to go to induce a climate of panic throughout the world (not to mention the fact that it's chock-full of scientifically verified evidence that disproves global warming). Go back and read the studies supporting global warming. The methods used to collect the data are fundamentally flawed, and the conclusions made by the so-called responsible scientists that interpret the data are ALSO fundamentally flawed. BOTTOM LINE: We really don't know what's going on because scientists can be bought for the right price, so until we get some objective experts to review the data and make a sound determination, we will never really know if global warming exists or not. Even then, we may still not know what's going on and whether we can do anything about it. One thing I do know is that our ecosystem is nowhere near as fragile as the environmentalist doom-and-gloom crowd purports it to be.

Answer 3

Well when you hire Liberal scientists that is what you will get. It is still a bunch of liberal lies being told to keep the people scared. Did it ever occur to you that you might be wrong? Where is the warming? It has been more mild in the Midwest then in the last 100 years. We have had more rainfall then in the last 20. The ice caps grew by more than 2 feet this year. Where is the warming?

Answer 4

Yes, Global warming belongs in scientific debate.

Though they have found increased CO2, there has been no correlation to global temps. Fact is the earth has gone through extreme weather changes throughout history.

Global warming, like acid rain, become political when the researchers demand government grants...using dooms day scenarios and fear to get tax dollars.

Reminds me of the study done about the decrease in seals in Alaska. It was blamed on fishermen. Laws were passed to end the fishing, destroying several small towns and hundreds of lives ruined. Yet the seal population continued to drop. Unbiased scientists later found that the protection of killer whales increased their numbers in direct proportion to the decrease in the seal population.
Bias in science is just as dangerous as bias in politics.

That being said I still support clean fuel and environmental policies...I just do not base it on the threat of global warming.

Answer 5

Don't you remember the warnings of a new ICE AGE back in the 1970's? You can cherry-pick any evidence you want to come up with the conclusion you're seeking.

There's also evidence that average temperatures were HIGHER in the middle ages, but the tree-huggers don't want to hear about that. You cherry-pick your facts to "prove" the conclusion you've already reached. That's not science. A scientist goes in open-minded and looks at ALL of the facts.

Answer 6

i thought stan broke the dam with a motorboat

Answer 7

Hate to tell you this, but Bush admitting global warming is real doesn't mean humans caused it. Global ice ages are real too and, like global warming, have been occurring since long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long before mankind ever crawled from the sludge.

And, these global warming/ice age cycles will continue for a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long time to come.

Please, take a look at the many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many scientists who have refuted man-made global warming in their many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many books, studies, scholarly scientific articles and conferences, but simply haven't been given equal airtime by the politically biased media who insist on telling the public only what they want them to know, and are fast approaching equal footing with Nazi propagandists. (Psst! Mass media: Just give me facts and I'll make up my own mind, thank you. I don't care what side of the friggin fence you're on, but I'm sick of having to go to the bloody library every time I want straight information.)

While you're at it, you might want to take a look at the psychological definition of the term "groupthink," and the ways of avoiding it. If you don't think our campuses and media are largely infested with it, you're the most susceptible.

Ok then, I'll leave you to your homework.

Chris