Go back and read translations from the original Hebrew instead of something that has been translated and retranslated over and over again by PEOPLE with biases of their own, then we can talk.
2006-09-04 20:23:40
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answered by musikurt 4
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How strange... my Bible doesn't have the word homosexual in it anywhere.
As another answer said, the word "homosexual" wasn't even invented until a little over a hundred years ago. Until just recently, homosexuals COULDN'T be out and open about being gay. Homosexuals were forced to get married to the opposite sex and have children and play out their homosexual feelings on the side and in secret.
I understand why you believe the way you believe about homosexuality. Thank you for being the 45th person in 30 days to post that exact scripture for us. You don't know how much it means to us.
It is quite simple really...
If you believe homosexuality is wrong...
DON'T ENGAGE IN HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR!!!
In what scripture does the Bible say to force all others to abide by your definition of God and the Bible?
2006-09-05 19:27:44
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answered by Dustin Lochart 6
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Don't really think it's your place to pass judgment on anyone. Regardless of what the Bible says, you are not judge and jury. Only God can do that.
So here is my point!!! Why does it bother you soooo much? Why do you and people like you preach about it soooo much? What is the point? You are not going to burn in hell for what someone else does, unless you do it too.
I do not agree with homosexual acts..... (IE.... I'm straight) But I have both male and female friends that are homosexual, and I don't care! That is what they want to do, and I accept that. If there is indeed a punishment to be handed down from their behavior, I won't be receiving that punishment. And I'm sure you are not a saint yourself.
So before you start casting stones at someone for their sexuality, think about the stones that could be casted at YOU!!!
2006-09-05 03:31:28
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answered by Lynda C 3
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Yeah yeah...
Do YOU know what it says about you popping in here all the time to preach?
Matthew
6:1 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
10:14 And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.
2006-09-05 06:13:53
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answered by IndyT- For Da Ben Dan 6
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What the Bible REALLY says about Homosexuality:
I CORINTHIANS 6:9-10
It is amazing the number of times that you will see the word "sodomite" or "homosexual" or "pervert" in different translations concerning this text. It is amazing because no one knows exactly what the words of the original text mean! The layperson, unfortunately, has no way of knowing that interpreters are guessing as to the exact meaning of these words. Pastors and laypersons often have to rely upon the authority of those who have written lexicons (dictionaries explaining the meaning of words) of Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic words. The authors of scriptural lexicons search for the meaning of the word within the scriptures themselves and also go outside of scripture and research literature written around the same time the scriptures were written. If the interpreter is already prejudiced against homosexuality they can translate these words as condemning homosexual sex even based upon little usage of that word in the Scriptures and little if any contemporaneous usage of that word.
The truth is that the word some translators "transform" into "sodomite/homosexual/pervert" in I Corinthians 6:9-10 is actually TWO words. Some translators combine them because they "think" they go together but they DO NOT KNOW. This uncertainty is reflected in the fact that other translators keep the words separate and translate them "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind".
The two words in the original Greek are "malakoi" and "arsenokoitai". Malakoi is a very common Greek word. It literally means "soft". It is used in Matthew 11:7-18 and Luke 7:24-25 in reference to soft clothing. Scholars have to look at material outside of the Bible in order to try and figure out just what this means. The early church Fathers used the word to mean someone who was "weak" or "soft" in their morals and from the time of the reformation to the 20th century it was usually interpreted as masturbation. In Greek this word never is applied to gay people or homosexual acts in general. "No new textual data effected the twentieth-century change in translation of this word: only a shift in popular morality. Since few people any longer regard masturbation as the sort of activity which would preclude entrance to heaven, the condemnation has simply been transferred to a group still so widely despised that their exclusion does not trouble translators or theologians." (See Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality, John Boswell, University of Chicago Press, 1980, page 105-107) "Arsenokoitai" is discussed in the next section as it is found here and in I Timothy 1:8-11.
Note: Greek contained no word which compares to the English noun "homosexual" meaning someone of homosexual orientation. In fact the word "homosexual" (meaning someone of homosexual orientation) was not even coined until the late 1800'S by German psychologists, and introduced into English only at the beginning of the 1900's. (See Christianity, Social Tolerance, and homosexuality, John Boswell, University of Chicago Press, 1980, page 42) However, during scriptural times there were a number of Greek words to describe homosexual sex acts and the two words "malakois" and "arsenokoitai" do not appear among them (on "arsenokoitai" see Boswell, pp 345-346.)
2006-09-05 03:28:32
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answered by DEATH 7
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Yes, and many brunettes have been completely set free by Miss Clairol. Jesus has NOTHING to say about homosexuals (a term coined in the late 1800's if not as late as the early 1920's).
Also, are you aware that the first person "cured" by Exodus International now admits that his feelings for other men did not go away? There are lots of ex-ex-gays out there who have been irreprobably damaged by "well meaning Christians" who justified their bigotry and fear of others who are different by hiding it behind religious rhetoric? The fact of the matter is that Jesus cares not about who someone LOVES. Fornication is another matter. And the fact of the matter is that you can buy contacts to change your eye color, buy hair dye so you can "go blonde" or any other color besides the hair color you were born with, and you can decide that you are uncomfortable with the way God made you and try to go against your nature and try to change your feelings for others because you are told you are wrong to love another man/woman. BUT at the end of the day, the colored contacts come out and you still have the eye color you were born with, your hair will grow out and reveal your natural color, and you will still discover that you have feelings for others members of the same sex. Feelings that well meaning "Christians" will disapprove of because they've been told they should. From my research, and I am a Mental Health Counselor, MOST of the so-called "Ex-gays" admit that they struggle DAILY. So, I'll admit that any behavior can be "revised" but not too successfully. Trying to go against one's born God-made nature is to live a lie. To yourself, your family, and to GOD. Truth is, you'll never been blonde if you are naturally brunette, you will never have brown eyes if you were born with blue, and you will never be rid of same-sex feelings even if you try to change/ ignore them. God made you that way and who is Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or you kind sir to go against and try to change what God created?
2006-09-05 04:04:09
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answered by Stuart W 2
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www.godmademegay.com
Love isn't demonic, hate is. And I tried to be "set free" your way. I ended up with major psychological problems. When I accepted myself, I was ok. It isn't a choice. Can you give us stats and prove them? Why are they always not posted? Why did two leaders of the largest x-gay groups go back to being gay? Why are they sometimes found in gay bars or strip clubs. How can you stand behind some one who admitted to molesting his children? Why do people call being gay unnatural when its been documented in wild and caged animals?
2006-09-05 03:36:12
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answered by Mithrandir_black 4
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I don't want to be set free by the "power of Jesus Christ." I'm a lesbian. I've met a lot of men who think their "power" is something special, but let me tell you, if you've seen one you've seen them all.
2006-09-05 11:59:28
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answered by lcraesharbor 7
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to my recolection, the word "homosexual" is never used in the bible. and while on the subject of you, personally passing judgement, are you aware that the bible also says "so that he that believeth in me shall have everlasting life"...it doesnt exclude "homosexuals" in that passage of scripture. so let's break this down for your apparent narrow mind to comprehend...
Jesus said(written in red in my bible) "so that he(meaning anyone and everyone) that believeth in me(whoever believes in Jesus Christ)shall have everlasting life(will be in my presence for all of eternity).
i also notice that you included "idolaters" as well in your "little rant",
let me ask you something, do you "collect" anything, like say....elvis memorabilia, unicorns, trophies of any kind, or even nascar? if you do, i bet you have them all in one particular place like a "shrine", huh? do you "idolize" any particular celebrity?
do you also know, that when you point a finger in judgement of others, you also have 3 pointing back at you? would it surprise you that i am a homosexual, and i also believe in Jesus Christ as my personal savior, just as are a lot of us, HEY! here's a newsflash for you, i am also an ordained minister, just as are several other ordained ministers i know. but now i imagine that you will start another rant of how we arent fit to teach the word of God and to bring others to the Lord right.....
here is something else for you to "digest"....
"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals"
2006-09-05 03:34:24
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answered by daddysboicub 5
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Gary, come back when you know what Jesus said about homosexuals.
Hint: He said Love God and love your neighbor as yourself.
Amen
2006-09-05 08:34:48
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answered by michael941260 5
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I have never seen one homosexual set free. I have seen a few highly effeminate "ex" homosexuals trying to claim that they have been set free. You obviously are troubled by this issue.
2006-09-05 03:56:16
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answered by Christopher Boston 2
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