Evolution is stupid?

Question

I asked a question 4 days ago, about the idea of evolution and how silly it can be when one studies the "deep" things. One "scientist" wrote this:
"I as a scientist do have an open mind, and so my challenge to you still stands - when this question has ended no matter who you or voters pick as the best answer - please leave a VALID alternate THEORY on how life has changed through time!"

This is what makes me laugh about the evolutionary "scientists" notice the OPEN MIND admission, then notice the challenge...
"""please leave a VALID alternate THEORY on how life has changed through time!"""

Isn't that ASSUMING that LIFE CHANGED through time??!!

Come ON MAN!! How is that an OPEN MINDED QUESTION?!?!
That is like me saying, Have you stopped beating your wife? You CAN'T answer against, if you say yes, you admitted to beating her, if you say NO, you admit you are beating her

Evolutionary scientists, many of them, SAY they have an open mind, and actually think they are, but

they are so indoctrinated into what they believe, these are the questions and challenges they give!!!

Okay, fossil evidenCe...
Lets see, how about the Lobe finned fish? No evolution in 400 million years... there is some great fossil evidence. There are many others...

Okay, lets see..if I don't have an alternate theory I should teach a STUPID theory... that doesn't make sense.

Even if there is no other "theory" doesn't make evolution right.

Answer 1

your question wasn't a question it was a rant about a religious doctrine,

heck you even posted it under the earth sciences topic...save your self righteous tirades for the church newsletter and lets keep this website for what it was intended for.
thank you. it is obvious you aren't really asking a question and any statement that you don't agree with you will take offense to and so answering your question is pointless...
oh wait there wasn't a question...
just a moronic speech

Answer 2

You have kinda made a fool of yourself here....if it is such a big deal why don't you just GIVE a real alternate theory..cause you can't that is why you nitpick

Here is what the guy means..he is open minded but not brain dead...if you give him a THEORY (science has hypothesis, theory and law..theory is hypothesis proved correct by lots of tests but still has too many flaws to be declared a law) that has some rational explination.

Basically if I said Rain came from water vapor in the air changing matter states to fall to ground and you said "Nuh uh its angel tears" and I give you a bunch if evidence proving my idea and you just keep going "no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no its angel tears" you have NOT provided a valid alternate theory..all you have done is drum your heels on floor like a 2 year old making you look like a retard.

So by asking this you have proven that you have a closed mind and you are totally incapable of reason,logic,independent thought, all the things that seperate us from the animals.

Please for the sake of the human race do not breed..and speaking of breeding you said life has never changed......Go see an authentic Old Sailing vessel..like a real year 1700 ship or previous vessel and they are still around...or go to a really old house and check the size...you will see it was made for much smaller people..Humans have become quite a bit taller and brawner (yes and fatter) over the last couple hundred years...explain that..was it overnight miracle? No it was a gradual change in the human race...key word CHANGE

Answer 3

I can hardly think of a more "closed mind" question than the one you have penned here.The evidence for evolution is all around you, mainly in fossils but also in living organisms. For example in Lake Victoria there is a fish which is unique to this lake. About 150 years ago a section of the lake was cut off by a sand bar trapping a population of these fish. Today, although looking exactly the same as each other the two separated populations have changed to the point that they are now no longer able to interbreed. EVOLUTION in practice. I know I am wasting my time typing this answer as you will never have clear enough thinking ability to understand.

Answer 4

Hey buddy, when I say I have an open mind, I mean it! I have seen many studies that uphold the theory of evolution, but I have seen many studies that also disprove it. The fact that the Coelacanth is actually a living deep water marine fish rather than the extinct shallow water semi-aquatic transition stage it once was thought to be for example does give some weight to your position on the fossil record.

Hey, we as scientists don't always have all the answers - which is why we make observations, come up with new theories, or new tests for old theories - test and re-test these theories - each new answer brings up new questions - that is what science is all about! A theory may be both proven and disproven - hence the need for a scientist to have open mind in order to accept whatever case is stronger.

Yes evolution tries to explain how one life form has evolved to become another (fish to amphibians to reptiles to mammals, etc). Unfortunately the main evidence for this IS in the fossil record which you find unacceptable - AND I CAN AGREE on that! Problem with fossils is they are destroyed by the very geological processes that work to re-shape the earth. And if clear transitional fossils are out there, they are still in the ground. And as the case with the coelacanth, may very easily be misinterpreted when found. It is interesting to note that so far NO human fossils have been found to coincide with dinosaur fossils.

On a smaller time line however, we do see evolution taking place. Populations of insects becoming immune to poisons used for decades to kill them. Same with bacteria in hospitals becoming resistant to the very cleaning chemicals used to sterilize that environment. Ok, the selection process isn't exactly natural in these cases - but the population response is exactly what evolution is all about - natural adaptations that prove beneficial to their owner, particularly in a changing environment, get passed on to the next generation, and the next generation, and so forth eventually creating a strain of bacteria or subspecies of insect that is immune to a stressor (poison or cleanser) introduced into it's environment. Because we do see these small changes to populations within our own lifetime, it is not impossible to imagine that many small changes can make for big changes over millenia!

To all of you who have leaft posts concurrent with or supporting my position, thank you! I tried to be reasonable with this guy on his previous question! I asked him to at least explain his position that evolution is stupid, if he could not come up with an alternate theory fitting the scientific method! I was disappointed to see he instead decided to attack both myself and the rest of you! My challenge was not an attack, but rather a request to explain / defend his conclusions - something which he so far has not done! If attacking a solicited response is all he can do, then it just shows he is ignorant to all but his own position, and not serious with his questions (the purpose for which this forum was introduced)!

Answer 5

To suggest that life has NOT changed over time--continuously and systematically--or that it is not still changing, fundamentally and pervasively, as we speak (type), is to simply ignore VAST masses of information, scientific observations of centuries' accumulation, and discount it as if it were anything less than obvious, or to suppose that all that information was put here as some kind of cosmic joke--perhaps God wanted to trick us into Hell by making the universe one big lie? Is evolution the only possible explanation for these changes? No. Is it the only reasonably rational explanation that can be devised--whether with open or closed mind--to accomodate the observable state of the natural world? It becomes harder and harder with each passing decade to doubt it, no matter HOW freaking open your mind may be. The fact is, it takes an enormous amounts of stubborn denial and self-delusion, and an intense insistence on living in a dizzyingly incongruous and irrational universe, not to accept evolution. Incidentally: to believe in evolution does not imply atheism, as it is so often framed. It implies only that many of the things we are told about God, and the way he has worked (up till now at least), are false. I make no trouble of this: God, yes, creation mythology, no.

Answer 6

"they are so indoctrinated into what they believe, these are the questions and challenges they give!!!"

The line quoted above shows why you have emotional issues with a theory.

A Theory is not a belief like a religion that takes a "leap of faith".

Scientists and the general population are not expected to "believe" or take the "leap of faith" as required by a religion in regards to a theory.

A theory simply suggest the most likely explanation based on current facts. Theories can and do change as more facts are discovered.

Evolution does not exclude religious faith.

Answer 7

You have not offered an alternate explanation of the fossil record, plate tectonics, and the mere fact that star systems are millions of light years away. Biblical explanations of earth to have been created in 7 days, is 6 thousand years old with no explanation on mass extinctions flies in the face of logic and the record that is right in front of you. To say otherwise is ignorant at best. How is it possible for stars to be millions of light years away if the earth is 6 thousand years old? How about that open minded response?

Answer 8

what is this? unless you have alternative theory that can be proved, you shouldn't be in the debate. since there are no opposing theories that have not been proven false, there should be no debate. how is it closed-minded to want someone who knows what they are talking about to enter the discussion? is it wrong to ask only for people who have valid ideas? i guess so. and in case you haven't realized, there is plenty of evidence that life has changed over time, you're just too closed-minded to see it, or accept it, or understand it, or some combination thereof.

Answer 9

We can actually watch E. coli evolve in a lab, so we are not assuming that life can change, therefore:
Would you mind stating what is wrong with evolutionary theory?

Answer 10

I wish you religeous nuts would stop arguing against science. If the Bible was a scientific text then it would have all aspects of science on it, which it doesn't. Would you argue against Einstein's E=MC^2, which is not mentioned in the Bible? We have nuclear reactors based on that science.