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I believe in Creation and it upsets me that my ignorant BIO teacher is trying to tell me that I evolved from a stupid monkey! HELLO, time does NOT make impossible things possible! *durh* How can you prove it though? I mean I know the Bible says that evolution is wrong, but what proof?

Oh fo sho Darwin has issues. He was mentally ill. He even admitted it. so why should we believe what he thought?

2006-09-04 18:11:53 · 24 answers · asked by CaLiFoRnIa_PaGeAnT_GiRl 2 in Science & Mathematics Other - Science

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so, a guy who says we had the same ancestors as monkeys (not saying we ARE monkeys, though when some of open our mouths it seems that way), you say he's nuts? but when someone gets a set of rules from a burning bush, thats totally acceptable?

i'm not saying one is better than the other, but if you can open your mind to one possibility, you should try to open it to all possiblities. and a lot of evolution has tons of evidence to support/prove it. does that mean that we werent created by God? nope. it doesnt prove anything one way or another. i believe in god, thats my personal belief. but, that doesnt mean to me that the bible is word for word historically accurate. theres a lot in there that contradicts with things we know to be scientifically and historically true. i mean, i read a book about some green eggs and ham once, but that doesnt mean it ever really happened.

to prove the bible cant be 100% accurate, just read the gospels. those 4 books all have different stories of the last supper, the most important night in the bible. some say jesus pointed out who'd betray him, others just say that he knew it would happen. and, theres a lot of other codixes from back then that DIDNT get included in the bible because the church only wanted ppl to read specific things that gave a one sided opinion that was more appealling. why is the bible flawed? simple, its written by man. theres no way that we told these stories for all this time and they didnt get changed a little over the years. remember, these stories originate from when most ppl couldnt read or write. and then they were translated into many other languages, and the different versions of the bible are all a little different, but they all teach that man is flawed. so, if man is flawed, how can he write a perfect text? and call me crazy, but if god spoke to me, i dont think i'd be perfect enough to understand him perfectly, i bet i'd mess up a bit.

so, at the end of the day, you should understand that a school cant take religious points of view, and can only teach science. we should all just try to accept each others points of view. you dont need to believe it, thats your choice. but you might as well not believe in gravity too.

2006-09-04 18:18:38 · answer #1 · answered by hellion210 6 · 8 2

There are two essential elements to the theory of evolution, and if either of them could be proved wrong, the theory would fail:
- Variation. An offspring may be different from its parents due to a transcription error in the germ cells. This happens very frequently; in fact, every commercially important animal or plant differs substantially from the original wild type, sometimes so much so that the variant and the wild type are not mutually fertile -- i.e., it's a new species. So, variation is established, and not disproven.
- Selection. A mechanism is needed to select favorable mutations. In nature, the mechanism is simply survival -- if the variant survives and successfully reproduces, then the variation, if it is in fact favorable, will reproduce preferably to the original type. Since the beginning of agriculture, humans have been doing the selection: looking for cows that produce more milk, peaches that ripen uniformly and taste good, and literally thousands of other products. So, selection is established, and not disproven.
It is a provable theorem that the predictive power of any theory derives exclusively from its refutability. In general, it is not possible to prove that a theory is correct, because there could be an exception somewhere that has not been found. But in the case of evolution, we have shown that the theory is refutable, but is not refuted, and since both essential elements are proved, the theory is proved. Which is a long way around to say that the theory of evolution is proved to be correct.

This proof procedure does not, however, shed light on the details of the evolution of any particular species -- we have to use genetics, paleontology, anthropology, and other sciences to do that.

Creation theory, on the other hand, is in principle irrefutable: there is no conceivable way to show that it is NOT true. Using the predictive power theorem described above, it immediately follows that creation theory can predict nothing: there is no conceivable way to test it. It could be true, but it is provably useless.

In the case of H. sapiens, we know that the species descended from an earlier species, from which also arose such species as chimpanzees (who are probably our closest genetic relatives). Bottom line: try not to scratch in public.

2006-09-04 19:22:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Evolution is a theory. It is neither right nor wrong. However, as a scientific theory it is open to modification as hypotheses arise and are sustained or rejected by data.

This, of course, leads to modifications of the theory of evolution. The modified theory is better because it now takes into account some new information but it is neither right nor wrong.

Religion, Creationism, and Intelligent Design are all "religion" as they cannot be tested unless we meet the creator.

Therefore the precepts of Religion, Creationism and Intelligent Design cannot be put forth as hypotheses that explain how evolution really works -i.e. they cannot be put forth as supporting arguments to support a "new improved theory of evolution" -because, using the scientific method we would have to reject the hypotheses (R6n, C9m and ID) because they are neither provable nor disprovable.

AND I suppose, to turn this argument around, we cannot try to say that now that we have see all this evidence that supports our theory of Evolution that it means that either there is no God or if there is a God, then this is how God made it all happen.

Science is not meant to kill religion, we are put here in this universe to glory at the wonders and to learn as much as we can. The scientific method is a pretty good method but it does not replace religion and religious ideas, as appealing as they may be cannot become fodder for the scientific mill as these are unprovable ideas.

to quote shakespeare "There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy"

When Science was in its infancy, the church filled us all in on the way things work. When scientist were all trying to make gold out of other metals, the church told us how the universe began and where we all came from.

Now science is filling in some details. Obviously there is some overlap now. But, surely there are other wonders we haven't even thought of yet (to paraphrase Shakespeare).

I still wonder at the universe. But, I also have a workable although imperfect theory of how it all got going and got to this point.

Scientist need to trained to recognize a religious (non-testable, faith based) concept from a hypothesis (something that can be tested) and with this training, help other scientists and religious leaders to understand our complimentary roles.

So, evolution is not right, but neither is it wrong. The theory of evolution fits our current data and helps us make predictions on that data and the theory itself changes as we learn more. i.e. the theory of evolution EVOLVES.

thanks for reading this far.

2006-09-04 19:22:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

RH, that is a thing of beauty. I would only add that Darwin himself was convinced his theory was incomplete and encouraged others to test and improve upon it, which is what scientists have done for 150 years and will keep doing.

If creationists want to join the argument, come to the table with something that can be scrutinized, as evolution can. A story from an old collection of myths doesn't cut it...

2006-09-07 16:47:41 · answer #4 · answered by Mark M 3 · 0 0

I think it is utterly hilarious that you have the audacity to call your biology teacher "ignorant" for teaching evolution.
OBVIOUSLY you do not know any details behind the theory, therefore, you cannot possibly make a properly informed decision on its merits.

Regardless of what your faith or personal believes are, there is always room for science and religion to coexist, they are not mutually exclusive.

If there were one simple way to prove, scientifically, that the theory of evolution was false, it would no longer be a valid theory. In order to compensate, the theory would either need to be changed in order to fit the new evidence, or abandoned all together. The mere fact that the theory is still around shows you that it is still a possible explanation of life, one of many.

Don't jump to conclusions and make uninformed decisions.

2006-09-04 18:36:34 · answer #5 · answered by mu 1 · 5 0

Look at the facts. There is scientific evidence that humankind evolved from apes. The earth is not only 6000 years old. Maybe darwin was mentall ill, but is the rest of the world? What do you call those great big skeletons in the museums.

2006-09-04 18:25:55 · answer #6 · answered by missmoon_1953 3 · 3 0

It is more like, prove that the bible and creation is right!
I have yet to see a 'burning bush' or 'parting of the Red Sea', yet you tell me that because the bible says it is so, it is fact. I can't see it or touch it. I cannot for a moment believe in the bible. It was written by men for men. My take on it is that we may never really know where we came from, but I tend to side with evolution, purely because of it's reality. The bible is full of stories.

2006-09-04 18:24:08 · answer #7 · answered by Twisted Maggie 6 · 4 0

Wrong? No..... INCOMPLETE? Absolutely.

Evolution has, and continues to (or chooses to) miss an infinite number of variables not considered in its equations and permutations.

Einstine knew it, Darwin knew it, even farmers and primitive people KNOW this.

The paradigm that stays the place of evolution as an exact science is money and denial; those who DO know in the scientific community, even in the anthropological community, continue this incomplete theory (as fact) because to complete it would not only take work but also saying, "I just don't know"

Darn, well there goes their funding.

2006-09-04 18:22:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anna C 3 · 3 1

your Biology teacher is right, and he's certainly been studying the subject longer then you have, it is after all his job to understand biology. It's not just him or Darwin either, it's 99% of the scientific community out there which acknowledge the validity of evolution.

The bible was written a scientifically uneducated society 2000 years ago, there is no way it has the ability to tell you scientifically accurate theories about how the world works. Hell, the Bible is used to prove the world is flat, and we all know that's bogus (I least I hope you do). If it gets something like that wrong, what hope does it have of explaining human origins?

2006-09-04 18:21:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 10 2

While I do not agree with your fundamentalist bigotry, I will help you out by telling you this one secret of science: Evolution is a theory, and all theories are wrong by default until proven to be universally right. The burden of proof lies on science. Although religious interpretations, as an opposing theory, would need proof as well. That's the problem with your whole argument. You believe something on faith without proof, yet you would try to find proof against something. If you don't need facts to know that creation is right why search for facts as to why evolution is wrong?

2006-09-04 18:21:27 · answer #10 · answered by rcrespo@sbcglobal.net 2 · 4 3

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