The point is that warrant less wire taps give one person absolute power and "WE THE PEOPLE" cannot watch over with government
2006-09-04 15:52:44 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Government
Been talking to al queda lately?
2006-09-04 15:54:03 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋
What I have a hard time with is how does it matter when we are infringing on the rights of individuals who don't care about our basic rights to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Look at what word come first LIFE. That is right before all we must have LIFE, once we are sure that our life is safe, than we can have those liberties, and after we get our liberties it will allow us to pursue happiness. If we are unable to ensure that the first will happen than the other two, well, they become null and void.
Also I am ashamed how some people piss and moan about there Rights and Liberties being violated, but would do nothing to help others who have no rights and liberties. I know that this is not the case for all of you who share the same line, but many of you are spoiled rotten brats who take for granted what those who came before you worked hard to get. As a moral society we shall not rest until every last person on the planet has the same rights and liberties that we enjoy!
2006-09-04 23:44:03 · answer #2 · answered by Chris S 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Because they haven't bothered to actually read the laws.
Read 50 U.S.C. §1801 et al. (FISA) Warrantless wiretapping is illegal if anyone US citizen or resident alien is a party to the conversation.
The exception, under FISA, is that wiretaps may be implented for a period of time (3-15 days, depending on circumstances) while a warrant application is sought.
People also generally haven't bothered to read the court opinion that declared the NSA program unconstitutional. Bush never argued that he was following FISA requirements. His only argument was that he had inherent powers to ignore federal laws whenever he wanted to, with no oversight by the courts. And THAT is what the court ruled was unconstitutional.
Most people haven't bothered to actually read the laws. So they just listen to whatever mindless rhetoric justifies the conclusions that they have already blindly leapt to. It's really rather sad.
{EDIT to Leogirl0804} Can you please point to any evidence of your claim that Clinton also violated FISA and used the same program that Bush authorized in 2002?
2006-09-04 22:54:34 · answer #3 · answered by coragryph 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
the people who do not understand are the morons who like Bush, giving up their rights for "safety precautions." (ex: the patriot act is unconstitutional and forces people to give up one right.) And blindly follow a leader. I don't care that they're tapping terrorists, because the terrorists are the people in power, the government that plotted the 9/11 conspiracy.
2006-09-05 09:44:38 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
AGREED.
The purpose of the judicial branch having to authorize it is so one branch of government can never run everything without the other two. It is scary that someone thinks they have the "authority" to decide what rights they can violate. Where does the President think he has the authority to authorize such a thing?? There can't be a law that states that, because the court would declare it unconstitutional.
2006-09-04 23:23:34 · answer #5 · answered by volleyballchick (cowards block) 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I must agree that I find it offensive as well. There is a simple process for the executive to obtain warrants as required. Their argument that it is simply too difficult does not hold water as they are even allowed to get the warrant AFTER THE FACT and still be within the law.
I consider this to be one of the power-grabs by the executive. I expect that once it makes it to the supremes the balance will be restored.
...and how about signing statements?
2006-09-04 22:54:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
Nutcase Neo-Cons will somehow justify Government intrusion in our lives. And if anybody gives the lame excuse "we must fight terrorism" ignore them. Al-Qaeda knew in the 90's that we could listen to their phone calls, that's why we never thwart terrorist Attacks by phones but good old fashioned police work.
Conservatives are determined to make America into a George Orwell state. I say screw uncle SAM (who really got us into this mess). If you let our government do this then they will start too do more liberty taking, you give them an inch they'll take a mile.
2006-09-04 23:01:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
They have bought the whole spiel...
The way to protect America is to quit making foreign enemies and let citizens own any kind of small-armaments short of HE rounds. Any reasonable judge would grant a wire-tap if he thought it would stop a terrorist. The Intel community has gotten too elite. Where is the oversight?
2006-09-04 23:00:56 · answer #8 · answered by Ren Hoek 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree totally. This undermines the constitution. The constitution was made by our forefathers to give individuals rights and protections from the government.
2006-09-04 22:59:41 · answer #9 · answered by Ice4444 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Over seas communication has been listened to for years, It was done by Clinton, by the first Bush, by Carter and so on.
What do you think that large building shown on TV with the large dish was far and it has been there for years. You don't beleive it has just been sitting there empty till Bush woke them up and told them to do it
2006-09-04 23:21:34 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Probably because they don't think that it will ever happen to them as they support the government. When it does happen to them though, it's too late at that point to change your mind.
2006-09-04 23:01:14 · answer #11 · answered by choyryu 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋