My girlfriends and I went out to celebrate a birthday (all over 53yrs old). Our friend was 54yrs old. We are all happily married - We left our husbands at home. After dinner, the music beckoned us, we looked around and there were no men to dance with, so we all got up and started dancing. Suddenly, a staff member approached one of my girlfriends and told her that the owner didn't want us dancing (we were fast dancing and not touching each other - we are not lesbians). We were upset and unable to figure out why the management didn't allow women to dance alone. We gathered ourselves and proceeded to leave. Upon exiting, we looked behind and saw that the management team (owner, bouncer, etc., ) following us out, as in escorting us out. We were told not to return. What should we do to file a case against the club owner? We were only having fun... and we paid for our drinks and felt we had a right to dance. Was this considered "RIGHT OF REFUSAL" or was our CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATED? Help!
2006-09-03 07:32:34 · 16 answers · asked by Ms-No-It-All 4 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Dancing
Well, silly as it is, come clubs feel they have an "image" to uphold. Somewhere there was probably a tiny little sign hanging up that gives them the right to refuse service to anyone. For any reason. I would try calling the owner of the club or find out the manager's supervisor's name. Or, better yet, tell all your friends not to patronize their club. No business is the best revenge.
2006-09-03 07:37:22 · answer #1 · answered by lil_angel64 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Holy Cow!
That's messed up. Where is this place? Lesbians or not is irrelevant.
I have worked the door at many clubs in my younger years and I can tell you that the reasons that people are thrown out are insane. I have tossed people that I know didn't do what they were accused of. I have tossed people because MGMT made a move that was not reciprocated. I have tossed people because management wanted to see me do it.
I am not proud of this, and I don't consider myself a tough guy. I worked my way through college by working the door at these places, and it was just easy money, after school hours.
I will say this, I don't enjoy going to clubs anymore, they make me tense. The more "exclusive" the less likely I am to go! Because I am aware that these things happen all the time.
As far as lawsuits, from what I know, these places are private property, and they have the right to toss anyone, anytime for anything.... And worse off, I was often told that once I asked them to leave, the moment they resisted they were trespassing, and I could force them out. I often did, and never had a cop on a patrons side.
The worst thing you can do to them (and you should) is tell all your friends about this, post the experience and let word of mouth spread that this place is irrational and hostile. Nobody likes being escorted out of a club, and the fact that this place used a bouncer on three 50 y.o women celebrating a birthday makes them look sad!
Good luck, and try to remember, this bad was on them, not you guys and it's too bad this ruined a good birthday!
2006-09-03 07:44:48 · answer #2 · answered by Champ 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I am sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do about it. The establishment is certainly a private establishment and they can do whatever they see fit to keep their business as long as they don't violate any laws. The age discrimination or civil rigths laws are only applicable for public agencies.
In fact, they don't even have to post the sign saying "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". There is no law requiring them to announce their right to the public.
Let's put yourself in their shoes. Suppose you own a club that caters to mature customers. Then, one night, a group of 21-year olds come. These kids wear revealing outfits and dance hip-hop or break dance on the dance floor. They probably do not interfere with anybody and are just having fun. However, some mature customers may find their presence annoying. Would you, as the owner/manager of the club, let them stay?
If I were you, I would not care to protest their action, unless of course their action is rude and impolite. I would just pick another night club/establishment to have fun the next time my birthday or my friend's birthday comes up.
We live in a democracy and everybody has the same freedom. They have the freedom to run their business and we have the freedom to choose places we want to go. Sometimes, their freedom may interfere with ours, and we may have to concede. But that's the price to pay to live in a free country.
I know this answer does not help you much. But think of it this way. You are happy because you can still dance and have fun with your firends in your 50's (and your husbands don't mind). That is way way more than a refusal to service. It's like you park illegally to buy a winning lottery ticket and have to pay the parking ticket. Why let such a minor incident spoil the fun?
2006-09-08 15:04:41 · answer #3 · answered by simba 1 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Were you at a place where people typically dance and not just dine? If so, you and your friends should seek an attorney. As long as you weren't disturbing anyone by being drunk, rowdy , etc. I see no reason why you were asked to leave. That, my friend, sounds like age discrimination!! I am betting if you ladies had been celebrating a 23rd b'day instead of a 54th, it would have been just fine with management. No offense by saying that, I think it is great that you ladies "stepped out"!
2006-09-03 07:43:36 · answer #4 · answered by onewikkedwoman 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You should definitely ring the bar and speak to the manager. You should be given an explanation for why you were kicked out of the place- I think that legally they have rights to refuse entry to anyone so you probably can't do anything about that but you might want to consult a lawyer to check. Really its just totally rude and poor service to kick you out without an explanation but clubs and bars seem to be able to make their own rules.
2006-09-03 07:37:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
This is absolutely just Wrong!! I could understand if you were doing some grinding with each other, but just dancing?? They definitely ruined your evening of celebrating a friend's b'day! Yes Maam, check into it! You gals should be compensated in some way..Even if it's an exclusive invitation to return, for an all expense paid evening!! Now things like this, well to put it mildly, Piss me off!! Good luck!!! Don't let them get by with this!!
2006-09-10 22:30:10 · answer #6 · answered by janet r 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
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2016-09-30 07:32:45 · answer #7 · answered by riesgo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately, the sign reads, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." I think it is awful the way you were treated. This business does not deserve good customers like you or your friends. You may want to approach the news with your story. Good luck.
2006-09-08 13:18:31 · answer #8 · answered by Rhonda 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I agree that what they did was uncalled for.But management does have a right to run their business as they see fit as long as they are in compliance with the law.I don't know that you have a case against them.Check with a lawyer.
2006-09-03 07:44:35 · answer #9 · answered by hungerforknowledge 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most places have the whole "We have the right to refuse service to anyone" sign hanging out somewhere. It is sad. They presumed you were gay, so they kicked you out. Gays are treated poorly all the time. That's what gay people have to live with every day.
2006-09-03 07:40:30 · answer #10 · answered by WEIRDRELATIVES 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋