You are absolutely right. Liberals will never understand the Islamic agenda. When push comes to shove, partisan politics are meaningless.
Muslims will form a caliphate, the umma. A person is either a believer (Muslim) or a non-believer (non-Muslim). A person is either in the domain of Islam (Dar ul-Islam) or the domain of the unbelievers (Dar ul-Harb). Harb means war.
You may be interested to read a document which discusses the degrees of Islam in great detail (50+ pages) -- "From dawa to jihad - the various threats from radical Islam to the democratic legal order":
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/netherlands/dawa.pdf
But first read the a one page essay by Dr. Walid Phares, "Islamic concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries":
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/news109.htm
Phares states, "It [taqiyah] is done to prevent the new converts from seeing the real face of Islam; at least until their faith or mental conditioning is strong enough to make them turn against their own country and people."
Not all Muslims blow up things, yet "jihad in the cause of Allah" "jihad fee sybil Allah" is "fard ayn" "compulsory duty" for all Muslims. Why? There are rules from the Quran for combattive jihad. Read this:
http://www.notislam.com/id8.html
What does the tape from Gadahn mean? Does anyone realize that Muslims are supposed to "dawa" "invite others to Islam" before jihad?
According to al-Mawardi an 11th Century Shafi'i jurist:
The mushrikun [infidels] of Dar al-Harb (the arena of battle) are of two types: First, those whom the call of Islam has reached, but they have refused it and have taken up arms.… Second, those whom the invitation to Islam has not reached, although such persons are few nowadays since Allah has made manifest the call of his Messenger…it is forbidden to…begin an attack before explaining the invitation to Islam to them, informing them of the miracles of the Prophet and making plain the proofs so as to encourage acceptance on their part; if they still refuse to accept after this, war is waged against them and they are treated as those whom the call has reached…
In the Hidayah, vol. II. p. 140 (Hanafi school):
It is not lawful to make war upon any people who have never before been called to the faith, without previously requiring them to embrace it, because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith, and also because the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war… If the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax, it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do."
2006-09-03 15:21:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Liberals must live in a dream all the time. I know what you are saying and agree. The politions keep saying that this war is not a war against the Muslims. I sure don't understand what else it is. I don't claim to be a staunch conservitive and do believe all should be taken care of. I also believe those that are able at all should earn it. Free has no value as Europe is finding. Why not call it as it is and get with trying to solve it. When I hear Muslims say they are peace loving and do not want to harm any person I cringe. They think that is the way they feel but when the leaders tell them to fight against us they will do so and gladly. They do not need any real reason, just be told to by the clarics. Democrats can't even find a decent person to run for president next time.
2006-09-03 03:49:16
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answered by Anonymous
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I read this entire statement (it is not really a question). I have seen Gadahn on the news yesterday. I am certain this is just a recruiting method used by Al Queda. The news community decide to allow a large chunk of the video to be play...giving the recruiters the vehicle they need.
What does the American Civil Liberties Union have to do with the video or Al QUeda recruiting strategies? The ACLU works for everyone regardless of there partisanship. I don't think that Left Wing Liberals are the only people who want to keep their Civil Liberties in check. I don't want to give mine up because their may be terrorists recruiting in the USA.
Additionally, There are at least a million Muslim people living in this country in peace, practicing their religion and loving their neighbors. They really aren't trying to "Islamsize" the USA. That is unfair and extreme.
2006-09-03 08:13:19
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answered by LongAgo 5
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Liberals understand it. They also understand the Facistic tendences of the Ultra Right to hold a Gun to your head and say believe as I do or die.
Al Queda is just like the American counterpart. ULTRA conservative.
When Romania threw out communism they were originally going to BAN the communist party from politics, but then they realized by doing that they'd be just as BAD as the communists who ruled with an iron fist for 40 years.
Liberals also understand the toll of war. In this one there would have to be a draft and WOMEN would have to go.
We would need an army of an easy 15 million to go up against Islam and still we could get slaughtered.
Take a look at how the Israelli Army fared against a few thousand "rag heads" -- the first time in history they admitted the enemy was well prepared and good at what they did.
That wasn't the 1967 war where Jews fired at tanks and Arabs got out and ran home.
You're talking a fierce fight and a racial fight.
Muslims are now entrenched in every country and it has been said that France can't pass a law without their vote.
Now, who is going to aign with us?
Look at how fast Italy and other countries got out of Iraq once a few hostages were taken.
Now who's getting out of the tanks and running home because an Arab shot them!
OUr best hope for an allie would be China who has issues with them over Tibet and other places, but 25% of China is Muslim.
Islam is not stupid. They have people JUST LIKE YOU in every country talking JUST LIKE YOU, except the opposite way.
They wil wreak havoc from within.
You want to go all it. This will be a war to end all wars. The population of the world could drop 20% or more and the population of the US could drop 35%
There are 1 billion Muslims and 250 million Americans.
That's 4 to 1 odds and Don't expect France, Spain, Denmark, Sweden or Canada to come and join us. They won't!
2006-09-03 03:55:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh yes we live in a dimension where we can separate fact from fictions, Its a lovely place you should visit sometime. See Um how to make this understandable for you Bush lovers, Ok some muslims are extremists and have hijacked the religion of Islam for their own twisted ideas.Just like in the US how christianity and its meaning has been hijacked by the Christian right and is being twisted and warped into a fanatical idea of what that religion really is.Oh and some of us realize that we created Al Queada and seek to understand why they really hate us.Not just throw around phrases like they seek to destroy our freedom, cause that just isnt the truth.
2006-09-03 03:57:32
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answered by stephaniemariewalksonwater 5
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You aren't aware that the CHRISTIAN crusaders murdered thousands of Muslim prisoners during the crusades are you? I am AGAINST these fanatics, but when it comes to extremists living in another dimension it applies equally to the left AND the right. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. My response to the nut case that says convert or die? Let's eat some bacon together! I'll buy!!! Screw Bin Laden, and screw the terrorists. I don't listen to the words of people that are child MURDERERS. Don't lump everybody into the same group. I'm probably a lot more liberal than you, but if you want to shoot Bin Laden between the eyes I'd buy you the ammo, and you can get in the line... right behind me!
2006-09-03 03:42:07
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answered by Paul H 6
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I never thought I'd find a question from someone who had a clue. The IslamoNazis need to be eliminated by force. That should sound odd, comming from me, but hey.
Although I think people like Comrade Hillary Rotten-Clinton and Nancy "Stretch" Pelosi would definitely benefit from having to wear a berka, I have to take the threat the seventh-century-minded barbarians pose seriously. I will convert to Islam on February 30. No sooner.
To address 'Smack's stupidity, dude... catch up to the rest of us. These "kids yelling at you at a stopsign and throwing rocks" are not just "yelling". They are taking it to the next level. As for them "throwing rocks", when rocks become mortar and grenade rounds and then they hide behind the women and children they mingle with, it becomes a whole new ball game.
2006-09-03 04:13:21
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answered by peacemastr 1
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While I am a liberal and a voting Democrat,the rest of your description doesn't fit my way of thinking. I am against the extremist Muslims,and believe them to be a great threat to this country and the world.I do not support Mr.Bush for his shoot em up mentality.Our military is over burdened and under equipped to stage an all out war against the "evil hoard" at this time.We must be ever vigilant to the acts of terrorist ,and that includes the terrorist already here in this country,in the form of illegal immigrants of all nationalities.The open southern border is an open door to terrorist and needs to be slammed shut.
A moratorium on all immigration should be in effect at least until we can get a handle on terrorism.
The threat and order to convert or revert (we were all born Muslin according to their beliefs) shouldn't be ignored but neither should it be given more attention than the rest of their propaganda.I as an American and a liberal thinking Democrat stand ready to defend this country in any way that will bring peace except the surrender of our way of life and our freedom..We should not surrender to the extremists,we need to prepare for all out war if necessary.We should not give up on diplomatic attempts to resolve this but it appears fruitless to me.Do not think all liberal Democrats think as you say we think.We are ready and armed to protect this country from threats both from with out and within.
2006-09-03 03:49:02
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answered by Yakuza 7
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The answer is Yes! But unfortunately it is the same one we Normal People live in.
The Liberals hate Bush so much, that they do not care how many American People will die, as long as they can only get their Power back.
Our Country has not been attacked in the five years since 911. You will not see that in the Main Stream Liberal Press, or in the Liberal TV Media.
All you see, is attack after attack against Bush. When proved that the attacks are false, you will not see a retraction in the paper. All you get is some stupid excuse for the MISTAKES!
Repeat lies often enough, and Stupid People will believe them. Thank God [Whoops] for the Bloggers, and their ability to find the truth.
2006-09-03 03:47:06
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answered by Sentinel 5
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Excellent Question. I don't know, I mean it doesn't take allot of intelligence to understand when Osama bin Laden received approval from the Islamic Clerics to start a holy war against Americans, Jews, etc., you would think it meant them also.
I don't know any terrorist that is going to ask "Did you vote for a Liberal...ok, you can live"
2006-09-03 03:46:49
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answered by Fitforlife 4
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why are you such a scared little person? those backwards azz muslims cant afford or coordinate a major attack on ur country ... its like you being scared of a group of kids yelling at you at a stopsign and throwing rocks ... you need to start waking the f*ck up and realizing who the real threat to your way of life is ... its the same people you keep tossing ur liberties to and begging to protect u from those cursed muslims.
2006-09-03 03:50:31
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answered by Anonymous
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