2006-09-02 02:04:14 · 13 answers · asked by cognito44 3 in News & Events ➔ Current Events
pat.rob00, did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
2006-09-02 02:09:09 · update #1
Yes, free will, free choice.
2006-09-02 02:05:34 · answer #1 · answered by 'Barn 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It is my view that the Scottish firefighters were wrong to refuse to give out leaflets to a gay pride march. They are public servants, operating within a chain of command that serves the public and as such are required to commit equally and without prejudice to ALL members of the public, irrespective of the communities those members of the publc may belong to. It would be unacceptable for a fireman to refuse to attend a fire in a lesbian or gay man's house. It is unacceptable when representing their employer for a fireman to refuse to hand out leaflets at a gay pride march - irrespective of their personal view.
Public servants do not get the 'right' to discriminate. When firefighters sign the contract of employment, they are signing up to uphold the requirements of the fire service they are joining and to do what they are told by their chain of command. Choice is not a big part of that contract of employment.
The moment you let public servants choose who they deliver services to you hand over the establishment to bigotry and hatred. What next? Ambulance drivers refusing to attend incidents in mosques because of their religious beliefs? Teachers refusing to teach classes containing too many non-caucasian children because of cultural beliefs?
It would be no more acceptable for a fireman to have refused to attend an elderly persons home to demonstrate smoke detectors than to have refused to attend a gay pride march. Both the elderly and the lesbian and gay represent 'equalities communities' which are found in significant numbers throughout the public. The fact that some of the firefighters attempted to get out of their attendance at the gay pride march "on religious grounds" serves to expose how unsuitable for public service some of these people really are. They expected public support when they wanted to strike to preserve their terms and conditions, but then snubbed that same public when called upon to represent the fire brigade within the community. That's blatant hypochrisy. Public servants do not get a right to discriminate on any ground. If these individuals want the right to choose who their customers are then they should leave public service and become self-employed.
2006-09-02 02:47:05 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes what is all this hype about homosexuality anyway and this is no longer a country with free speach.Maybe us normal people should have a Straight pride march just to see what the homo's reaction would be
2006-09-02 02:18:59 · answer #3 · answered by FLOYD 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The free will/free choice argument is flawed.
Noone has to agree with homosexuality if they don't want to - that's their right so long as they don't discriminate.
Firefighters are paid by our taxes. We own them. Gay people pay taxes. They are supposed to be a part of our community. Refusal to hand out a few leaflets is in my opinion disgraceful - what were they expecting? To be turned gay? Lose macho appeal? It's right they were disciplined - I'm sure they'd happily hand out leaflets to a "straight" parade on overtime.
2006-09-02 02:09:32 · answer #4 · answered by nert 4 · 0⤊ 2⤋
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2016-11-06 06:48:40 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't know if its as much too do with the homosexuality debate as disobeying orders from superior officers. The order was reasonable (part of their duties are to inform on fire safety) and they disobeyed this order for what ever reasons. If this is the route they will be going down will they be allowed to decline rescuing individuals from burning buildings because they have made a choice to refuse and order. I'm glad they've been punished.
2006-09-02 02:18:04 · answer #6 · answered by tmctagga 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes, they have the same right to not give them to someone, just as the person they give a leaflet to has the right to refuse to take it.
2006-09-02 02:10:34 · answer #7 · answered by Saved 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Some people see participation (even in the slightest form) as acceptance and support so if their personal views and opinions conflict it is best for all involved that they do not participate.
2006-09-02 02:12:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Why should they be forced to pass out something when they do not think it is right?
2006-09-02 09:20:55 · answer #9 · answered by fatboysdaddy 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
yes they were, a gay pride march and fire saftey are not the same thing
2006-09-02 02:11:30 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋